@John A. i knew that would be in your wheel house. I'm slammed for the weekend church stuff buy next week will dig in. Its lineage is former departmental gun from South Fla Leo friend he was allowed to purchase at some point in the late 90s he had 2 exact same, all these years finally gave one up, mags were still loaded with evil black bullets for last 25 yrs +- LOL , he bought from his sheriff dept and put in safe as is never even shot either of them.