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1911: Pics and Discussion

Discussion in 'Handguns' started by AC45ACP, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. Itsricmo

    Itsricmo .30-06

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    Sorry for the Double Post everyone but:

    I went to Gander Mountain today and spoke with a salesman about 1911's. I am furthering my knowledge of different models, what they have over the other etc... as well as brands..

    The kid (22 at best) said that the RIA G.I. and all RIA 1911's have "Soft Shi**y Slides"... and failed to elaborate... Can anyone justify this claim and explain??
  2. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Global Moderator Moderator Sponsor

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    Sorry, I can't. LES and a few others have them and I haven't heard any negative from them.

    I've looked at them. Only thing I saw was that when new, they don't have any real oil or grease on the slides and so the function feels like any other NIB gun I've ever handled.
  3. Itsricmo

    Itsricmo .30-06

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    Alright, ill wait and see what they have too say. Thanks Rossignol! Happy Thanksgiving!!
  4. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Explanation?

    The guy's an idiot and shouldn't be allowed to work in a gun store.

    My RIA is built like a tank and shoots every bit as straight as the rest of 'em. I shoot and carry it with every bit as much confidence and pride as any firearm I own...
  5. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Global Moderator Moderator Sponsor

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    The guy's an idiot and shouldn't be allowed to work in a gun store. Excellent explanation.

    Kinda like the one guy who in front of you has to breakdown every gun you wanna look at first and talks down to you the whole time like you couldn't find the trigger with a set of written instructions and GPS coordinates. And maybe an actof congress. To bad that guy ruins it for the rest of the gun store.
  6. tcecil88

    tcecil88 .30-06 Elite Member

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    You have to take his age into account when you consider him as well. At 22 he cannot have enough real experience with handguns to be able to sell them and know what he is talking about. He probably is quoting whatever he read on a gun forum and that particular person did not like RIA.
    Our local GM has the same problem, not much experience behind the counter. There should be a minimum age to work in a gun store and 22 ain't it.
  7. Itsricmo

    Itsricmo .30-06

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    Alright, that is why I confronted all you fine experienced Gentlemen! Thank you for your comments and shedding some light on the situation!

    I shall share a story he told me about "One time at a party"... Keep in mind I told my father that I will NEVER buy a firearm from this kid but would grab another associate/sales person before dealing with him, money and a gun.....

    So we all know that when you apply pressure (a decent amount) to the front of the slide on most 1911 models (probably not all), the slide locks-up and you cannot pull the trigger. He told me one time at a party he put the 1911 up too his brothers head and pulled the trigger to scare his friends! After seeing my *WHAT THE **** ON SAM HILL WERE YOU THINKING* face, he assured me he knew it was unloaded... >.> This was after his claim of a soft slide. lol My Fiance and Father will back me up on video about this one!


    L.E.S. can you safely and continually fire +p ammunition out of the RIA?
  8. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Never tried,

    I personally don't see the need to run +p out of my .45...
  9. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Global Moderator Moderator Sponsor

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    NiteSite had shared some info on +P at one time and why it didn't make sense for the 45 in his experience but I couldnt for the life of quote any of it at this point.

    Unless i dreamed the whole thing.
  10. nitesite

    nitesite Average Guy Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Same here.

    Besides, +P 230-gr .45 Auto is only <100 fps faster so any improvement in terminal performance is virtually nil.

    RIA frames and slides are just fine. That gun counter salesman is a douche bag.
  11. Itsricmo

    Itsricmo .30-06

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    Roger on the Douche/Deuche Bag! haha
    I was just checking out the Hornady Critical Duty stuff and it is all +P to my knowledge. I didn't want to get something for my "soft slide" and blow my hand off :p lol

    Can anyone say whether or not I can replace the rear sight with a Novak style sight and still use the Staked front sight?
  12. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Hornady makes a Critical Defense .45acp in a standard 185gr load. That's what I carry in all my .45 pistols, the RIA included.

    As far as the sights go, I believe the RIA Tactical models do use a Novak cut. The rear sights are calibrated for use with the matching front post, so it's the height of the stock front post that'll will determine whether or not you'll be able to effectively use a replacement rear sight or not. Too high or low and your sight plane will be off...
  13. tcecil88

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    ^I agree 100%.

    I also believe that you can push most autos out of battery and it will not fire. The Beretta Nano has a feature built in that prevents this. You might tell you're LGS clerk not to do his trick with that one, might not be so funny to him when he is being sodomized in prison. :twisted:
  14. Itsricmo

    Itsricmo .30-06

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    I must have missed it on their website! I will take a walk over there now and check it out!

    As for the sights, that is the answer I was looking for! I didn't want to get the wrong model and not be able to swap out the sights. I think we partially discussed this topic earlier in the thread about the style of cut in the slide.

    I called and asked about the Tactical w/ Rail and they want $586 vs no rail at $420... :| lol
    I believe the $420 comes with staked front sight though


    Tcecil, that is just wrong man haha :p
    He ENSURES that he knew it was unloaded! I am sure history would show how many party going individuals knew their pistols were unloaded but found out other wise when screwing around lol
    I thought it was a built in safety feature for some strange reason
  15. tcecil88

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    I believe it has been said here before. You can't fix stupid.
    Unloaded or not, it was a stupid thing to do and shows the maturity level of the boy. It also lends weight to my statement that 22 ain't the age to be working behind the counter of a gun store.
    I had a guy point an unloaded revolver at me one time when I opened the door to the basement they were in. He did not think it was funny at all when I reacted and suddenly he was looking down the barrel of my cocked and locked Para P-12. Luckily for him I realized who it was and lowered my weapon.
    The sad part was, I had brought an inexperienced friend over to show him how to handle a handgun. He has declined my offers to shoot with me ever since.
  16. Itsricmo

    Itsricmo .30-06

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    :/ oh wow... That is a sad thing, it truly is! "You can't fix stupid!" should probably be the "Phrase of 2012" haha I stopped by J&D Guns in Duncansville, PA, today to again check out the RIA 1911. I quit with Gander Mtn. haha. I still like it best and especially for the price :D I checked out a Springfield and Taurus but I hate the Dovetail Safety on the Taurus PT1911 (Stainless) and I don't feel like the Springfield (unknown model) balanced right. Very front heavy too me.
  17. rjpoog1989

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    I know how much y'all like gun porn, so I thought I'd post some up. I tried to make these a no. Different since there are already pics of Rugers in this thread.
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    I've put a few rounds through her and gave her a good cleaning. I'd never field stripped a 1911 before. It was a lot easier than I'd expected. The gun shoots well, no fail to fires or anything like that. I would like to shoot some paper targets to see how it groups but I was hitting the soda cans we were shooting the other day at various distances. It was always my dream to own a 1911 and now that I have one I need to figure out what my next gun will be. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out. There are quite a few good choices out there
  18. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Global Moderator Moderator Sponsor

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    That's a beauty man! Owning a 1911 was my dream gun too for a long time, then I got one and the next "must have firearm" became an AR, and now I have one! So what next? :D

    Been thinkin bout an auto shotgun or another handgun...
  19. tcecil88

    tcecil88 .30-06 Elite Member

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    That's nice!
  20. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Beautiful shooter Sir!

    Once I got my first 1911 I couldn't wait to get my second 1911... :D

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