Discussion in 'Ammunition' started by Zachary, Mar 21, 2014.
Bird Shot, Buckshot or Slug?
All Suggestions are welcomed!
Plenty of discussion over this. I run #4 Heavy field Shot in my HD 590A1. I know it will, at the range I have in my house, penetrate (Breach) at least one sheet rocked interior wall, but not exit the exterior of my home. and at the ~10 feet I would be engaging an intruder, #4 would have a pattern about the size of a silver dollar and I have 9 rounds to offer them!
So is this overkill? lol
Since you don't know anything about a potential intruder, it's a very tough call. Is he/she a 250lb 6'4" ex-con that's been pumping iron for 5 years and wearing body armor? Or is it a 5'6" 90lb drugged out teen in a t-shirt? Are there concerns over a missed shot penetrating walls and injuring innocents?
For me, I load a mix of 00buck and slugs, since there is no danger to other people if I miss. Generally speaking birdshot will not stop anyone, but will leave a nasty looking shallow wound. It could kill or disable if you made a head shot tho.
Very true! Thanks for the advice
There's been a lot of testing of the effectiveness of shotgun rounds for HD. Here's a site that covers a lot of it. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/theboxotruth.htm
Thanks! very helpful
Birdshot is for birds or for making slugs. IMHO
I prefer slugs, one projectile I am accountable for as opposed to multiple projectiles. Besides in my house, buck will not have time to spread prior to hitting an intruder.
There is no one answer. It is dependent on personal preference, home layout, neighbor location, windows, here will misses/pass throughs go, proficiency, etc. Many things should be taken into consideration when deciding.
I'll be using 00 Buck or Slug! I'm confident with my accuracy! Thanks
Really? I'm not nearly as confident of shot placement when I may only have a few seconds warning before I am forced to start throwing lead. And I've been shooting for about 60 years, 20 of them in the Marines, with a wide variety of weapons.
ok i lied lol
. Wasn't questioning your veracity, as there are some folks who are very good at snap shooting in high stress situations. SEALS and LEO, for example, among others. There is also some very good civilian training available for a price, if you feel it would be worth it to you.
Did anyone else notice from the last video clip that there is no backstop behind the target stand. Towards the end it even shows buildings in the tree line. They also fired the bolt gun from the bed of a truck, which in some states is illegal.
Please don't try this at home.
Not very many people, most cops included, are good at "snap" shooting. It is possible to miss with a shotgun. Don't let our current VP (Biden) convince you otherwise. Know your target, know what is beyond your target and act accordingly.
I took the VP's comments to mean we should all go out and buy a shotgun... so I did.
Birdshot is for birds. Using this for personal protection is a personal choice. Based on ballistics it's not preferred for law enforcement or FBI standards.
Trust me, as a former EMT, number 8 at two yards makes one hell of a mess of the human body.
The penetration does not reliably end the threat. Why would the FBI require at least 12" of penetration before using the ammunition for their agents?
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