I tried but it just didn't work. When my son got married and my grandson was born, I realized that due to life's curveballs I hadn't shot in years. So then it happened, I gave my gun collection to my son for him and the young one to enjoy together one day like I had with him. Then I saw the rifle on the internet, a new MVP 5.56 predator, with the laminate stock. I had to have it and I put up the bid and it now sets in my guest room calling out for accessories.