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M1 Carbine

Discussion in 'Long Guns' started by LAZY EYED SNIPER, Oct 20, 2011.

  1. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Staff Member Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Had an opportunity to take some pics of my Pop's gear today and this beauty is among the coolest of his collection. It belonged to his dad before him...

    Inland mfg./GM M1 Carbine, .30 carbine

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  2. SHOOTER13

    SHOOTER13 Guest

    Real nice Inland...

    A total of over 6.5 million M1 carbines of various models were manufactured, making it the most produced small arm for the American military during World War II (compared with about 6 million M1 rifles and under 2 million Thompson submachine guns). Despite being designed by Winchester, the great majority of these were made by other companies. The largest producer was the Inland division of General Motors, but many others were made by contractors as diverse as IBM, the Underwood Typewriter Company, and the Rock-Ola jukebox company. Few contractors made all the parts for carbines bearing their name: some makers bought parts from other major contractors or sub-contracted minor parts to companies like Marlin Firearms or Auto-Ordnance. Parts by all makers were required to be interchangeable. Irwin-Pedersen models were the fewest produced, at a little over 4,000. Many carbines were refurbished at several arsenals after the war, with many parts interchanged from original maker carbines.
  3. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator Sponsor

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    I have seen two of these personally. They were at the flea market I go to all the time and were in really rough condition. Even so, they were asking a mint, with loose furniture and no magazines. Korean war era, possible buy backs.

    That is a beauty man!
  4. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Staff Member Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Thanks fellas, this one is MINT!

    It's a great lookin rifle and has a really good feel to it. The action still runs smoothe as silk...
  5. GirlsLoveGuns2

    GirlsLoveGuns2 .30-06

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    My husband would love this!
  6. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Staff Member Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Did some diggin and the serial number on my Pop's M1 Carbine tracks its manufacture date to somewhere between the months of August and November, 1944.
  7. SHOOTER13

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    Nice...!! Here's a rough timeline of events in the months between August to November 1944:

    August 1944

    1: The Americans complete the capture the island of Tinian.
    2: The battle for Guam, another island in the Marianas, however, continues.
    10: Guam is liberated by American troops and all of the Marianas are now in American hands. They will be turned into a major air and naval centre against the Japanese homeland.
    11: The Warsaw Rising continues; the Red Army remain on the west side of the Vistula, apparently unwilling to help their supposed allies against the occupying Germans.
    14: The failure of the Allies to close the Falaise gap in France, proves advantageous to the Germans fleeing to the east who escape the pincer movement of the Allies.
    24: 168 Allied airmen arrive at Buchenwald concentration camp.
    25: Paris is liberated; De Gaulle and Free French parade triumphantly down the Champs-Élysées. The German military disobeys Hitler's orders to burn the city. Meanwhile the southern Allied forces move up from the Riviera, take Grenoble and Avignon.
    28: The Germans surrender at Toulon and Marseilles, in southern France.
    28: Patton's tanks cross the Marne.

    September 1944

    1: Canadian troops capture Dieppe, France, scene of their humiliation in August, 1942.
    2: Allied troops enter Belgium
    9: The first V-2 rocket lands on London
    15: American Marines land on Peleliu in the Palau Islands; a bloody battle of attrition continues for two and a half months.
    16: The Red Army enters Sofia, Bulgaria.
    17: Operation Market Garden, the attempted liberation of Arnhem and turning of the German flank begins
    30: German garrison in Calais surrenders to Canadian troops. At one time, Hitler thought it would be the focus of the cross-Channel invasion

    October 1944

    1: Soviet troops enter Yugoslavia.
    2: Germans finally succeed in putting down Warsaw Uprising by Polish Home Army. The Soviet Union armies have never moved to assist the Polish Home Army.
    : American troops are now in a full-scale attack on the German "West Wall".
    : Allied forces land on Crete.
    14: British troops entering Athens.
    : Field Marshal Rommel, under suspicion as one of the "bomb plotters" voluntarily commits suicide to save his family. He is later buried with full military honors.
    15: Allied bombardment of Aachen continues, the first major battle on German soil.
    23: Battle of Leyte Gulf begins. Largest sea battle in history. Americans experience more kamikaze attacks]] from Japanese aircraft; the USS Princeton is hit with grave damage.
    : The battle of San Bernardino Strait; the Japanese attempt to stop MacArthur's landing on Leyte. Small aircraft carriers save the day as Admiral Halsey is lured north out of the action.
    : B-29's are now using Tinian Island, in the Marianas, as a base for the systematic bombing of Japan. Soviet forces in cooperation with Tito's Partizan forces, liberated Novi Sad in Yugoslavia (Serbia today)

    November 1944

    4: Remaining Axis forces withdraw from the Greek mainland. German occupation forces will remain in several Greek islands until capitulation.
    British Gen. John Dill dies in Washington, D.C., and is buried in Arlington Cemetery, the only foreigner to be so honored.
    5: US planes bomb Singapore, under Japanese control since 1942.
    : Zionist terrorists assassinate the British government representative in the Middle East.
    6: Franklin Delano Roosevelt wins a fourth term.
    : The aircraft carrier USS Lexington is heavily damaged by kamikazes.
    9: General Patton's troops and tanks cross the Moselle River and threaten the city of Metz.
    10: V-2 rockets continue to hit Britain, at the rate of about eight a day.
    12: After numerous bombings while anchored in a fjord at Tromso, Norway, the German battleship Tirpitz is sunk.
    17: The Germans give up Tirana, Albania, and the capital is liberated by the Albanian partisans (Allies).
    21: San Marino declares war on Germany
    20: Hitler leaves his wartime headquarters at Rastenberg, East Prussia, never to return; he goes to Berlin, where he will soon establish himself at the bunker.

    That's a fine piece of history your Dad has there...!!
  8. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Staff Member Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Thanks again Shooter, great info...
  9. SHOOTER13

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    My pleasure SNIPER...you know how I like military history !! ;)
  10. Sfd714

    Sfd714 .270 WIN

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    M1 carbine.

    Just bought one. Any one tell me a little about them? Its a 30 cal. Any one done any cool mods to one? Pics to come later.

    Sent from behind the hood of a long nose pete.
  11. MikeD

    MikeD I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Re: M1 carbine.

    They are heavy, and fun to shoot. That pretty much sums up my knowledge of them. :D

    I've been wanting one but just haven't had the opportunity.
  12. Sfd714

    Sfd714 .270 WIN

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    Re: M1 carbine.

    Picked mine up from a buddy for $150. Im pretty sure its not a WW2 m1.

    Sent from behind the hood of a long nose pete.
  13. oli700

    oli700 12g Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Re: M1 carbine.

    wow, about any gun that fires is worth that, good job
  14. Sfd714

    Sfd714 .270 WIN

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    3 mags and 40 rounds of ammo. Couldn't turn it down!

    Sent from behind the hood of a long nose pete.
  15. MikeD

    MikeD I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Re: M1 carbine.

    Better run, because you just stole that one.
  16. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Staff Member Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Congrats!

    War era M1 Carbines range from around $900 all the way up to multiple thousands of dollars depending on the model year and the manufacturer. Auto Ordnance (Kahr Arms) has been making new production M1 Carbines for several years, but even those go for around $750 new. There have been more than two dozen companies manufacturing these rifles at one point or the other since the late 30's. There should be a manufacturer ID roll marked into the side of your barrel. If you let us know how yours is marked we can dig up some info for you...
  17. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    With a name like Carbinemike it shouldn't surprise anyone that I love M1's. An M1 is on my gun list but far enough behind other purchase goals that it seems unattainable right now.
  18. cbshooter

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    If you want to see some nice rifles go to http://www.miltec.com and check out what they do. I just sold one from them I had since about 1992. It was a Rockola, not all original but very sweet none the less. I almost bought one of their 1941 Johnsons but even then they were $2k.
  19. old mossy

    old mossy Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    that is one beautiful rifle. :D
  20. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Staff Member Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Thank you Sir.

    Knowing that it was carried by my grandad in the service makes it truly priceless...

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