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Michigan DNR May Close Deer Season in UP for 2015

Discussion in 'East North Central' started by MikeD, Apr 30, 2015.

  1. MikeD

    MikeD I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    http://www.sooeveningnews.com/article/20150429/NEWS/150428958

  2. John A.

    John A. Unconstitutional laws are not laws. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator

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    Daang.

    But I do remember both of us talking about what a hard deer season it was last year.
  3. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Ouch. I take it that's where you hunt Mike?
  4. MikeD

    MikeD I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    We have a place up there. I do a lot of hunting in lower MI now but I still love to go up there for family vacations and just to get away. Lots of memories and tradition up there, I've never missed a deer season in all my years of hunting I've always made it up for at least a weekend.

    This probably would be good for the deer as the numbers are low due to prolonged cold harsh winters. Just not sure how well it would fly with locals and those of us that drive up to deer camp every year .
  5. John A.

    John A. Unconstitutional laws are not laws. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator

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    And that's going to be the hardest part about it. If they do decide to stop season this year.

    But that still won't take away anything from your memories and traditions.

    But I do understand why you'd be bummed about it. I would be too.

    But from what everyone is saying, this year is going to be a bumper crop so hopefully the deer that did make it through the winter will have a fighting chance to pull out of it.
  6. OhioArcher

    OhioArcher Where's da fishes? Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    If they do stop it completely this year, the DNR officers will have their hands full of poachers. Some people jus gots ta have their deer...
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  7. MikeD

    MikeD I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Worst case, i will go to coyote camp. There are more of them than deer anyway LOL
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  8. John A.

    John A. Unconstitutional laws are not laws. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator

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    Coyotes will kill the fawns given a chance.

    I know they'll even follow along behind heifers just before they give birth too.

    The more you take out, the better you'll be as far as deer numbers go.
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  9. oli700

    oli700 12g Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    They'll pull antelope right out half way thought the birthing thing process around here.

    It was interesting on a Yellowstone documentary I watched that the introduction of wolves rebounded the antelope population from almost certain demise in the park boundary. Wolves absolutely hate coyotes and kill them on sight in mass if they can and by doing so brought the numbers balance back

    But there are wolves there right Mike ?
  10. MikeD

    MikeD I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Yes we have some wolves up there, not sure how many. I've seen a track but not much else. I've seen a lot of pics of dogs attacked by wolves taken not too far from my place.


    I know this is not the end, A short break in tradition is small price if it will actually help the deer population. Long term I'd prefer to see the DNR actually do what needs to be done for the deer.
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  11. oli700

    oli700 12g Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    thats the spirit Mike, wish more hunters were like you
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  12. John A.

    John A. Unconstitutional laws are not laws. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator

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    With as much money as the fish/game dept. get from deer licenses, I don't think they'll close the season even if it meant extinction of the species.

    I don't think you've got much to worry about.
  13. John A.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/states-consider-deer-hunting-permit-cuts-tough-winter-190636151.html

    A winter of heavy snow and bitter cold may have resulted in increased mortality rates from the upper Midwest to New England.
    In Maine, biologists are recommending a cut of 23 percent to the state's deer hunting permits. In Vermont, the number of antlerless deer permits is being cut nearly in half. In Michigan's Upper Peninsula, deer hunting could be halted altogether.
    "This last winter was one of the worst that I can remember. I suspect that we lost a lot of deer," said David Trahan, executive director of the Sportsman's Alliance of Maine. "Although it's disappointing to see permits go down, I would have to agree."
    Maine's Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife biologists are recommending the state issue 28,770 "any deer" permits, which allow hunters to harvest bucks or does. The cut would come a year after the state reduced permits from 46,710 to 37,185, a 25 percent cut that was also motivated in part by winter die-offs.

    More at the link above
  14. MikeD

    MikeD I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Looks like they decided not to cancel the season entirely, but just halt the anterless option during the archery season.

    http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2015/05/07/michigan-upper-peninsula-deer-hunting/70967184/

  15. John A.

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    We've not had a (rifle) doe season in as long as I can remember.

    We can take them with bows and black powders, but not with a rifle.

    Go figure.

    I didn't think they'd close the season altogether. Too much money in lost revenue.
  16. MikeD

    MikeD I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    The lower pop areas in the UP do not have an anterless option during the gun season (i.e. where I hunt). Elsewhere it is by tag only which you have to apply for or buy OTC if there are leftovers.

    It did come down to economics. As much as I was bummed about the prospect of missing a season, if it would make future seasons better I was on board. It's obvious that despite many positive changes within our wildlife dept, it is still driven more by economics than the actual wildlife conservation.
  17. John A.

    John A. Unconstitutional laws are not laws. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator

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    Anytime you add the words "Agency" or "Management" or "Bureau" after something, it will forever more be about the money and control.
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  18. MikeD

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    Update it's official, no antlerless during the archery season in the UP.

    http://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/MIDNR/bulletins/10925b7

  19. John A.

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    That sucks. But I didn't think they'd stop season altogether.

    KY's deer reg's are also warped up. Especially in my "zone" where it pertains to doe.
  20. MikeD

    MikeD I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    There are only two counties that issue doe tags now, shutting down the ability to take one with a bow (no additional do tag required) will impact a lot of hunters in the UP.

    The property I hunt up there is buck only but I would still hunt state land during the archery season as the archery tag allows taking of doe.

    This does not impact me as much directly but I have to think that the poaching of does will increase this year as the income levels in the UP are low and people need to keep they freezers stocked.

    Right now of more concern to me is the CWD case they found in the southern lower. DNR snipers are already culling deer (@night with suppressors....both options that are illegal for the rest of us.) in the area and have stopped baiting and feeding in the area as well.

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