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Mossberg 464 Lever Action Troubleshooting

Discussion in 'Mossberg 464 Lever Action' started by DHonovich, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ 12g Supporter

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    I did not feel like this spring in my 464 was too tight. As a matter of fact I was amazed at how light I thought it was the first time I stripped the gun down to clean it.
  2. diddums

    diddums Copper BB

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    Hi,

    I'm a new member but I joined this forum to get some help with my newly aquired 30-30 464.
    Unfortunately I was experiencing a lot of issues that other 464 owners are well aware of, such as the feeding issue and now a little bit of the tube mag jamming.

    But good news for myself and other owners that have been dealing with the feeding issues. I was able to pin point where the cartridge was getting stuck in the action.

    I have pointed out in the picture of my action where I noticed that the cartridge was getting stuck.
    When the bolt is closing and trying to slide the case up that little ramp, the angle of the ramp and sharpness of the ridges cause the case to push into that part of the action and get stuck.
    (If you know what I mean)

    What I did was i used a file to take the sharp edge off and round it at the top a bit so that it was like a little ramp for the base of the case.

    It's still not 100% yet but it's about 95% better.
    Before I did anything a case would get jammed every 2nd or 3rd cycle of the lever, afterwards I was able to cycle through 5 full magazines without a single jam. I did get a couple of small hang ups with my reloaded ammo but nothing like I was before.

    I can try and take some better pictures if people are interested.[​IMG]

    Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
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  3. diddums

    diddums Copper BB

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    I think that is from where I have pointed out in my post, I had the same marks on some of my cases and I noticed that the cases were digging into the edges on those little ramp pieces.
    Might be worth a look when you cycle it.

    Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
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  4. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ 12g Supporter

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    This looks like s great tip. I will look into this on my .30-30 when I can get it back out.
  5. Blackknight

    Blackknight .410

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    Definitely going to take a look at this! I also rounded the edge of the ejector hook, as that seemed to be a hangup place. WOndering if I combine the two if I might be able to get this thing close to 100%!
  6. coolhandluke22

    coolhandluke22 Copper BB

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    I just bought a Mossberg 464 Lever Action Brush gun, along with some Hornady Leverolution(sp? lol). However, the Hornady hung up on the second round. I've had lever action rifles before so I am familiar with them and how to use them. It happened with about 14 of the 20 shells I fired. Has anyone else had this problem? What type of ammo have you used that cycle fairly well? I do deer hunt and most shots will be less than a 100 yards here in South Alabama. Thanks----
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  7. sullivan

    sullivan .410

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    I had failure to feed problems with every kind of ammo. Is that what is happening with yours? The plastic magazine follower needed polishing and the tube had to be cleaned. Worked well after that but be careful with the follower. Being plastic, it isn't all that robust. Metal followers are available in the U. S. A.
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  8. meanstreak

    meanstreak .30-06 Supporter

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    Hope you get that straightened out Coolhand. Welcome to the forum from Oklahoma.
  9. Elbert Garrett

    Elbert Garrett .30-06 Supporter

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    Welcome to the group 1st Cav!
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  10. coolhandluke22

    coolhandluke22 Copper BB

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    Thanks...I'll take a look at this. 'Preciate the input.
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  11. Hugolbie

    Hugolbie Copper BB

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    Just got a used 464 recently. Took it out and it shot the first 8 rounds without an issue. After that, nothing. There are very light dimples on the unfired rounds, could my spring have "gone bad", can it be replaced myself?
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  12. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Springs can break.

    I'd probably let Mossberg deal with it. I've never been inside of a 464 so I would be pretty apprehensive doing it myself.
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  13. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ 12g Supporter

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    One of my 464 threads shows me adjusting the spring perch for a harder strike. The spring sits on a stamped steel perch or toggle that holds it between the hammer and frame. Just take off the buttstock and you'll see it immediately.
    2016-02-07 18.03.17.jpg

    You can only adjust it a little as you''ll affect the rebounding hammer.
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  14. Hugolbie

    Hugolbie Copper BB

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    THANKS

    I'd love to try that before shipping it away for two months. Would you mind linking the thread? I tried to search but couldn't find it!
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  15. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ 12g Supporter

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    As it turns out it is this thread. Go back and read thru my posts.
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  16. coolhandluke22

    coolhandluke22 Copper BB

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    Took it out today and shot "regular" Hornady 30-30 American Hunter blunt nose rounds....zero problems at all. It does not like those fancy Hornady rounds with the pointy tips. very very happy!
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  17. sullivan

    sullivan .410

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    The subject of vertical stringing is well known to me, unlike the solution. In the past, attempted solutions have included 1) loosening barrel band screws, first the rear, then the front, then both together 2) loosening the magazine cap screw 3) completely floating the barrel channel in the fore end. None of these ideas worked and #3 resulted in the magazine tube moving forward in the bands. Not what the Dr. ordered, not standard operating procedure and did not fix the stringing.
    Assuming that the mobile mag tube was responsible for the initial problem, I went to the trouble of cobbling-up a fix, at great personal distress (sob) and expenditure of time, which stopped the tube in its tracks. But the stringing continued auabated.
    Last May, a member of the enoughgun.com forum, in Oz, posted about his success with the methods of M. L. McPherson, which I have followed and which is pretty much finished except for the shooting. Please not that I am not too excited yet as it is possible to, "count your chickens", in this game.
    For those interested, the address in my browser is enoughgun/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11991
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