yep, on my extractor bottom has slight chamfer, hard to see but it is there, and thank you to William for excellent advice on all this and yes I have cleaned all of that mentioned, everything talked about must come together just right or this gun will jam, I will get some Winchester low brass trap shells and PROVE my work, cuz I know this gun does not like them, and I will let all know how it does, maybe we can save someone else a real headache, I might not have needed to buy $80 in parts, oh well,, as I have all the stock parts back in, and I am leaving it that way unless proven otherwise, I have built and played with lot of guns but this thing is really a different cat.. we will see, TX Matt