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new 930 spx

So I want to mount a flashlight and or laser pointer with remote pressure switches to my new 930spx but because this is my first shotgun and because I really don't know anything about anything the range of possibilities has me uncertain about what's good & smart and what to avoid.

I did read through lot of the threads in this forum but many of the posts seem to be outdated in that they recommend products that are no longer being produced or are no longer available.

So what is your smartest current advice for configuring this and what sources for mounts, lasers / lights do you like? Also what to be careful of? FWIW I'd like to buy American and avoid cheap chinese counterfeit items on ebay.
 
I don' t have any words of wisdom Walter but there are many here that have much knowledge. I do want to welcome you to the forum though.
 
May not be the advice you're looking for but given this is your first shotgun I'd recommend you shoot about 500 rounds through it and by then you'll figure out which modifications or accessories you really need to meet your desired use.

Welcome to the forum.

Regards
 
You're right: that's not the advice I was looking for but that does not mean that's not good advice.

Supposing I had already shot 500 rounds - what would the advice be then?
 
Walter, how about telling us what your intended uses are for your new shotgun?

Primary -

Secondary -

What is you price range willingness for a weapons light and/or laser?

With that information we can probably make some recommendations.

Regards
 
Slow down there boy! A good home defense shotgun needs a light. There are many things to consider first and there is a solution for every need.
Are you left handed or right handed? Even the most basic questions have ramifications.
Send a pic of your shotgun to this forum and I know that all of us would be more than happy to trick it out for you.
Also welcome from the socialist republic of New York!
 
You're right: that's not the advice I was looking for but that does not mean that's not good advice.

Supposing I had already shot 500 rounds - what would the advice be then?

I never assume a new member has shot a couple of cases of shells when first joining. Because that's generally not what happens.

How big were the patterns? Was this all with the same brand of shells? And the same kind of shells you plan to use (buckshot, slugs, birdshot?).

What distances were you shooting with those 500 shells? Do you expect to shoot closer or farther than that?

I ask those questions to try to find out if you're only going to be shooting within the confines of a hallway closet and the gun will live underneath of the bed the majority of time or if you are using this in the great outdoors where you may be 60 yards away from something that may could eat you alive.

My humble opinion, however dated, is that lasers generally just suck and are stupid. And can do nothing that a light won't do better in regards to the useful range of a shotgun.
 
Walter, how about telling us what your intended uses are for your new shotgun?

Primary -

Secondary -

What is you price range willingness for a weapons light and/or laser?

With that information we can probably make some recommendations.

Regards

The only use this shotgun will have will be for home defense.

As for price range I think you often get what you pay for and was hoping that, as I’ve seen in some of the other threads, people recommend a product which turned out to be very high quality for the price

A different question might be how much would you, the reader, expect to pay for a good quality light on a shotgun for home defense? What should I expect? What’s too much, and what’s too little. Along those lines I’d like to avoid inexpensive products made in China.
 
Slow down there boy! A good home defense shotgun needs a light. There are many things to consider first and there is a solution for every need.
Are you left handed or right handed? Even the most basic questions have ramifications.
Send a pic of your shotgun to this forum and I know that all of us would be more than happy to trick it out for you.
Also welcome from the socialist republic of New York!

I’m a righty.

It’s not a pump.

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I never assume a new member has shot a couple of cases of shells when first joining. Because that's generally not what happens.

How big were the patterns? Was this all with the same brand of shells? And the same kind of shells you plan to use (buckshot, slugs, birdshot?).

What distances were you shooting with those 500 shells? Do you expect to shoot closer or farther than that?

I ask those questions to try to find out if you're only going to be shooting within the confines of a hallway closet and the gun will live underneath of the bed the majority of time or if you are using this in the great outdoors where you may be 60 yards away from something that may could eat you alive.

My humble opinion, however dated, is that lasers generally just suck and are stupid. And can do nothing that a light won't do better in regards to the useful range of a shotgun.

Your assumption that outside of a gun range it will only be used within the confines of a hallway is correct. And although I have some I don’t think I’ll ever be using slugs. Hopefully I won’t ever be using the 00 buckshot either.. Practice? Yes. Using? Hope not.

A lot of folks seem to be down on lasers and that’s the kind of community wisdom I’m hoping to absorb.

Thanks to you all for being willing to take some time and render some carefully thought out advice based upon greater experience.
 
Morning Walter,

Based on the info you've just provided I'd recommend a good weapons mounted light (WML).

First, the mount - take a look at GG&G. They make excellent magazine tube mounts for most Mossberg shotguns.

Second, I'd recommend a good light. Depending on your price point take a look at following brands:

Streamlight
Surefire
Modite

All three are excellent!

There are choices on activation. Some prefer a separate finger pad switch while others prefer to use their foreend support hand thumb to activate the internal light controls. Both have advantages. Real issue is control and judicial light use. Some find finger pad switches inadvertently get activated when you don't want them. Placement is important also so you don't get an inadvertent activation if it hits a doorway or some other object.

If you're looking for something cheaper the new kid on the block is Olight. They've recently introduced several weapons lights but they are a product of China. Others may comment on their durability.

I'd recommend you hold off on a laser. A WML is really all you need for home defense. Once you have your setup it takes lots of practice to prefect the combined use of the shotgun and a WML. But that's a different discussion.

Again, welcome to the forum. Many folks here with decades of experience and willing to help.

Regards
 
Edit: Looks like Ernst and I were typing at the same time.

Most weapon lights are going to be made in china. That much is probably going to largely be unavoidable. Unfortunately.

The GG&G mount is what I'd pick. And is set up so that the thumb on your left hand can engage the switch, if you're using a traditional style light. Regardless, you're going to need the mount. I'm not sure if you can find it perhaps less expensive anywhere else. I'm only linking it so you know what I'm referring to.

https://www.swfa.com/gg-g-mossberg-930-flashlight-mount-1.html

In no particular order, surefire, streamlight, a lot of folks like Olight.

A lot can be said for lumens. There are many that like to have a light brighter than the surface of the sun and hot enough to melt a bad guys face like the nazi at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark. But, I have found that a light too bright, not only hurts the "night/low light vision of a bad guy who may be looking in the general direction of it, but it also hurts yours to a certain extent too. Especially if you are needing to cycle it on/off. So that's going to be a subject you'll want to look into for yourself. Typically, 60-120 lumens is MORE than enough for a close range weapon. It gives you plenty of light to identify the target without destroying your night eyes.

And the reason why I like a weapon light over a laser is in the close proximity that you'd be using it indoors, that light beam is going to be pretty tight/small. Meaning, if it's on when you're pointing that shotgun at someone within close distance of you, whatever is illuminated is going to be hit if you have to defend yourself.

Lasers makes a small dot (or other shape), but does nothing to be bright enough to be able to actually identify what/who you're shooting at. While a light will do both at fairly close distance. I could get into more about why I don't like lasers, but it has to do with zero'ing them at the distance you're shooting versus how that will affect the pattern at real world distances because if you are farther or closer than the distance you zero it, that laser is no longer going to be zero'd.

I particularly like a light that has a constant on "clicky" tail switch. But that is just my personal preference. There are many available that has a "squeeze pad" that you can attach to the handguard that would work well too. Since shotguns have a lot of recoil, I don't like the switches that rotate to turn on (like some lights use) because under a lot of recoil, the switch may be shaken so much that it turns itself off.

I'm going to be perfectly honest with you and everyone here. My favorite bump in the night weapon lights are nothing more than Ray-O-Vac "indestructible" work lights that run on AA batteries. The lights themselves have worked for years. They're cheap. And you don't have to stock a bunch of oddball sized batteries. And to take it a step further, I even use rechargeable AA batteries in mine.

So, it's all in what you want to do.

I know that my lights are going to come on when I push the switch. They're ~120 lumens or 60 lumens on low. I have the option of barely pressing the switch for a momentary on/off or clicking the switch to leave it on in for extended periods of time so my fingers don't cramp and feel like they're going to fall off if I have to cover someone for a long time.

Example:
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That is what I use personally. I have some lights that I've paid more money for, but these are my work horses.
 
I think Ernst and John have nailed it on the WML subject.
When you get the hardware installed then it’s all about practice. Practice shooting of course but also practice maneuvering around your house so that you won’t be tripping or bumping into walls and breaking lamps. Please DO NOT do the maneuvering with a loaded weapon.
A few other items to get good at. Ammunition choice, loading, shouldering, safety manipulation, fire control. I know it sounds like a lot of stuff but you’ll catch on pretty quickly.
Remember to be safe and have fun!
 
The IPROTEC is from Rual King for $39.99 and uses 1 CR123A battery. First click 200 lumens second click 100 lumens double click 200 lumen strobe. Personally in a pitch black house in the middle of the night with white walls I do not want to hit the switch on 800 plus lumens, it will temporarily blind your combatant but it will also temporarily blind you from the reflection so I like the 200. That light has been through at least 100 rounds from a Rock Island VR 80 12ga hundreds of rounds through a Smith & Wesson .40 and not sure how many magazines of 5.56 on an M4 platform and it still works just fine. I have purchased six of these lights for various weapons throughout my house and I have found it to be very reliable and sturdy especially for the price. And did I mention it's only $40. On my M4 platform or the 9:30 SPX it's a 90-degree rotation and the button is right there on a pistol my finger just naturally goes right up to it and it's easy to reach and push and there is a button on each side. My .02 cents
 
Could be! Where did you find it? Any terms I can google search? Tried: {steel eagle picatinny rail mount gun} but seemed to get pellet or air gun results only. Thanks.
 
Could be! Where did you find it? Any terms I can google search? Tried: {steel eagle picatinny rail mount gun} but seemed to get pellet or air gun results only. Thanks.
I think I found mine on eBay but look at combathunting.com under Mossberg accessories.

GG&G also make high quality accessories and have what your looking for. The nice thing about the GG&G stuff is it makes disassembly easier. You don’t have to loosen the SHCS to remove the mount from the mag tube.
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