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New York City Tries End Run On Supreme Court

Discussion in 'Firearm Related' started by carbinemike, Apr 13, 2019.

  1. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    The Supreme Court took on the case of New York City outlawing citizens from taking guns outside of the city such as for hunting or target shooting. I think everyone knows their law will be overturned so they are changing the law in an attempt to prevent a SCOTUS review and a new precedence set. They knew all along it was not a Constitutional law and they passed it anyway. It shows their contempt for the rule of law.

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  2. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    NY changed the rules ahead of SCOTUS hearing hoping that the case would be dropped.

    It should not be dropped and SCOTUS should rule anyway because it was still a violation.

    While it should surprise no one here that I am not a big fan of the nra, I will give them props for keeping on this.
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  3. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ 12g Supporter

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    And rule with PREJUDICE!
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  4. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Update...The NY case is still on as a stay was denied. As noted below though, NY City will likely dump the law completely and try for a dismissal. Anti gunners that thought it was funny to harass law abiding gun owners are now panicking that this may actually be ruled on and will like go badly against them.

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  5. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Good.

    I hope the SCOTUS slaps the law down right in the face of all of those that voted to do enact it.

    I know it's probably immoral to wish bad things on people, but sometimes I fail miserably at that.
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  6. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    NY City has modified the law in question in hopes of preventing a SCOTUS ruling. No word yet if SCOTUS will hear the case anyway or drop it. It gets more bizarre though. Some democrat senators must realize that NYC pushed an un-Constitutional law to far and sent a threatening letter to the Supreme Court by way of a brief against them hearing the case.

    My gut feeling is that SCOTUS will drop the case. Roberts is a wuss and will cave under leftist pressure (remember the Obamacare ruling?)

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  7. Water Monkey

    Water Monkey The man, the myth, the monkey Moderator Supporter

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    They were gonna punt either way.
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  8. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I will be extremely surprised if you are not 100% correct.

    SCOTUS does not like hearing gun cases.
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  9. meanstreak

    meanstreak .30-06 Supporter

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    Every day the left's quest for a complete takeover of this country becomes more evident.

    Now they are threatening the supreme court in no uncertain terms. Hopefully this time the court stands their ground, no pun intended.
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  10. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ 12g Supporter

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    It is not immoral to wish Justice for the evil and stupid.

    But you have to also wish that, having received justice, they will henceforth be happier and better people.
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  11. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ 12g Supporter

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    It is not just self-evident but they have literally announced it. They want to make America socialist and they want to control the socialist society.

    The house can't do anything, legally, to the Supreme Court. They could issue a condemnation letter or some other toothless Act.

    But to change the organization or operation or composition of the Supreme Court of the United States would require a constitutional amendment.

    They don't have the majority to push one through.
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  12. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    How did you see them punting it since they voted on and agreed to hear the case? The only thing I can think of is that most lawyers probably saw NYC changing the law before the hearing. I can see them folding now but I'm hoping they hear it since the democrats threatened them over it. They will look and be weaker than ever if they fold now and that's saying a lot.
  13. Water Monkey

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    I don’t believe they agreed to hear the case. Just agreed to consider hearing the case. In that position they need 4 justices to agree to hear oral arguments. Most gun cases get this far and then are punted before oral arguments. Let’s see how it pans out.
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  14. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    I double checked and in late January of this year they had the vote and agreed to actually hear the case. I'll post a link later when I'm not using my phone. They may still punt it now that NYC changed the law. It was widely expected to expand the earlier rulings out of the home. Time will tell. The anti gunners are doing everything possible to keep it from being heard. Sadly it could also lose. I could see Roberts voting with the leftists again. Losing would be ruinous to our rights.

    Edit: https://www.npr.org/2019/01/22/6874...-nearly-a-decade-possibly-with-big-consequenc
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  15. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    It looks like we wait until October. According to the Washington Post, SCOTUS has told both side to continue to file briefs and they will decide when they return to DC after summer break if they will hear the case or not. The NYC brief includes instances where Roberts has dropped other cases when circumstances have changed. On the other hand, SCOTUS has still taken cases when it was clear one party changed their position because they knew they would lose.
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  16. Water Monkey

    Water Monkey The man, the myth, the monkey Moderator Supporter

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    If there's a chance they will not hear the case it seems like it's still in the 4 judge ruling to hear the case phase. Which is where most second amendment cases go to die. Like the Peruta case challenging the CA CCW law.
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