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Noticing a lot of pistol caliber carbines being sold

Discussion in 'Long Guns' started by John A., Jul 18, 2017.

  1. zzrguy

    zzrguy .410

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    the pistol grip was a killer for this laws but if your PPC takes a mag in the pistol grip you stuck. I'm still saving g for the rugger.
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    95jza80tt .270 WIN

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  3. nitesite

    nitesite Sheepdog Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    One Year Ago you began this thread John.

    Look how far things have come!
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  4. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Yeah, 5 years ago, a lot of people said 9mm was obsolete. Not worth even shooting anymore.

    Now, .40 S&W is on the decline, the military is starting to go with other calibers than 556. We are living in bizarro world.
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  5. Water Monkey

    Water Monkey The man, the myth, the monkey Moderator Supporter

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  6. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Being nearly 100 years old, folks can say what they want about the 9mm, but it's proven its' worth the world over. It's hung a lot tags on a lot of toes.
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  7. zzrguy

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    Well I hope that Mean mag insert is better then their loader.

    I would rather a 40 carbine 0r 10mm. Even a Super 38 over a 9mm
  8. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I think the 9mm mag adapters are due out this coming week.
  9. Bobster

    Bobster .30-06 Supporter

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    Someone commented on the Mean mag inserts at another group. My thought on them you still have to pay $10-$15 for the magazine and they COULD be confused with a .223 mag or vice-versa. I like my Glock-fed AR-9. I have over 1000rds worth of magazines that can fit the pistol or carbine...
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  10. zzrguy

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    I'll keep my ruger pcc9 over 1000rds zero fail sub 1" groups 5oyds under 2" groups at 100ds
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  11. fellmann

    fellmann Esoteric Supporter Premier Member

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    There is a 9mm NATO out there ive heard.. Probably made for PC carbines ?
  12. zzrguy

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    I heard on a ammo form that a couple of ammo companys are working on ammo for pistol caliber carbines.
    I'm guessing higher pressure longer/ slower burning powder to squeeze out as much speed as you can out of the longer barrel but slow enough burn that you wouldn't over pressure a pistol but the flash would be spectacular
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  13. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Most IMI and all 9mm NATO rounds are loaded to about 38000 psi so they'll cycle all those heavy open bolt military weapons.

    Most commercial 9mm, is loaded to ~35,500 psi. I wouldn't say that is really anemic, but is comparable to shooting mile 38 special to +P 38 Special. It's a notable difference.

    Personally, I like shooting 165gr handloads. The thump of the bullet striking the backstop is the dominant sound. And it has a decent thump too.

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  14. fellmann

    fellmann Esoteric Supporter Premier Member

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    You looked much younger than i thought.. :D ( old and wise )
  15. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Nah, just fortunate to have been raised in a family that taught me a lot of stuff. I've been around guns all my life.

    I was shooting guns before I could keep the color in the lines. That is very true.
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  16. zzrguy

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  17. CaddmannQ

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    I'm still digging on the Henry .357 magnum. I have certainly not shot this carbine nearly enough.

    I didn't consider my .45-70 Marlin to be a pistol caliber carbine, until my buddy showed up with this.
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    That's just a still shot. There's no video. That is a stainless Magnum Research, and it's no harder to shoot than the .44 Ruger Magnum. It is larger heavier and more powerful though.
  18. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    That looks like a beast
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  19. nitesite

    nitesite Sheepdog Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    No, Thank You.
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  20. Bobster

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    Just looking at Cadd's pic gave me a bloody nose! :D
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