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NRA: Position on Proposed ATF Rule [Firearm definitions]

Discussion in 'Firearm Related' started by Scoop, May 13, 2021.

  1. Scoop

    Scoop .30-06

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    ATF Proposed Rule a Blatant Attack on American Gun Industry
    SATURDAY, MAY 8, 2021

    Two weeks ago we reported on a leaked document that appeared to be a new ATF proposed rule to amend several key definitions in federal firearm regulations. On May 7th, ATF published a nearly identical proposed rule on its website. The rule has not yet been published in the federal register, but likely will be on Monday May 10th. That publication will trigger a 90 day comment period where gun owners and members of the firearm industry will be provided with an opportunity to provide input on the proposed rule.

    The proposed rule, entitled Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms, proposes new definitions for the terms “firearm frame or receiver,” “frame or receiver,” “firearm,” “gunsmith,” “complete weapon,” “complete muffler or silencer device,” “privately made firearm,” and “readily.” In addition to these changes, ATF is seeking to create an entirely new process for licensed firearm dealers to apply serial numbers to unserialized firearms that come into their possession and to require the indefinite storage of firearm records by licensees.

    These new definitions would give ATF arbitrary authority to classify firearms in a way that could make it difficult or impossible for the firearm industry to operate.

    As we said in our alert on the leaked draft, “the rule would mean that many manufacturers would need to get pre-approval from ATF for new firearm designs. To put it another way, the draft takes 107 pages to say ‘we’ll know it when we see it.’” And, despite effectively requiring this pre-approval, ATF notes that “ATF’s decision whether to classify an item voluntarily submitted is entirely discretionary.”

    Creating arbitrary and unlawful new standards for firearm manufacturers while claiming that ATF has no obligation to actually reply to manufacturers who attempt to comply with the new standards is the very type of “arbitrary and capricious” rulemaking that the Administrative Procedures Act was enacted to eliminate.

    These new standards would give the ATF Director an incredible amount of power over the firearm industry. And, this comes at a time when President Biden has nominated anti-gun lobbyist and gun ban proponent David Chipman to head the ATF. This proposed rule is just one more reason why it’s extremely important for all gun owners to contact their Senators and ask that they vote against Chipman’s confirmation.

    Once the proposed rule has been published in the federal register, we will provide more detail on the many problems with the proposed rules and give guidance to gun owners and members of the firearm industry on how to best craft persuasive comments. Please check back to www.nraila.org soon so you can help fight the Biden Administration’s anti-gun agenda.

    More at LINK -> NRA-ILA | ATF Proposed Rule a Blatant Attack on American Gun Industry (nraila.org)
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  2. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Bend over...here comes the government.
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  3. John A.

    John A. Unconstitutional laws are not laws. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator

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    The government isn't the solution to the problem.

    They ARE the problem.
  4. MikeD

    MikeD I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Talked to my FFL today about some of this. He seemed to think it was a good thing and about time they reigned in the 80%'s they have been illegal and skirting the law for too long.

    Found that odd based on past discussions. May need to find a new FFL.
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  5. John A.

    John A. Unconstitutional laws are not laws. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator

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    Yes, you do.
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  6. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ 12g Supporter

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    I did. Jackass voted for Biden.
    Nuff said?
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  7. Bobster

    Bobster .30-06 Supporter

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    I would say yes, you do BUT I would want to know why he feels this way. I do not know ANY FFLs that feel this way. Maybe he has several cases of 80s he wants to unload at an even greater profit. :rolleyes: As a devout capitalist, I agree with LoSad and the opportunities it may provide. But, NOT when they infringe on rights given to us by the Constitution... :mad:
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  8. MikeD

    MikeD I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    He said it's illegal to make a gun in your garage and they need to fix the definition. He does not and will not sell 80%'s because he said he is a federally licensed dealer and does not want to jeopardize his livelihood by selling them. Also said not to tell him if I own or have purchased them because he is a federally licensed dealer.

    Kind of shocked me, I've had discussions with him before on gun topics and we usually see eye to eye. This time i casually asked what he thought about the new definitions proposed and he went on a rant.

    I don't have a vested interest in him personally. Just convenient and cheaper then some others around.
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  9. John A.

    John A. Unconstitutional laws are not laws. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator

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    We have always been allowed to make our own arms.

    Even the current AFT regulations agrees. Only they are now wanting the maker to engrave their info on the gun. Maker name city state/model/serial/caliber whether sold in commerce or not.

    Which I also feel is incorrect too.
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  10. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ 12g Supporter

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    Each better mouse trap leads to a smarter mouse.
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  11. meanstreak

    meanstreak .30-06 Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    More info, more regs, federal registry, confiscation.

    They have already been teaching in schools how bad guns are, after all they kill. Funny thing, the more liberal our country becomes the more violent it has become. Do you suppose there is any connection ?
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  12. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ 12g Supporter

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    IMO The average emotional & intellectual age of the country lags the physical age by a wide margin.
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