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+P .45 auto?

Discussion in 'Ammunition' started by Rossignol, Aug 15, 2016.

  1. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Staff Member Global Moderator Sponsor Moderator

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    I pay about $17 for 20.
  2. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Staff Member Global Moderator Sponsor Moderator

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    Hollow points, ash tray looking things, semi wad cutters... none will feed reliably. The Corbon Powrball works great. Prior to trying the Powrball I'd have to load only 6 rounds and was still getting occasional failures. Since using the Powrball I can load 7 and no failures to date.
  3. oli700

    oli700 12g Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    feeding problems suck....my heavy hitter is 10mm in a Glock.......tons of velocity and reliability with all projectiles......boringly awesome lol
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    lol, ok here are some I actually shot 180gr 10mm runnin around 1200 from a 3.8"
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  4. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Staff Member Global Moderator Sponsor Moderator

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    I wish I had boringly awesome reliability trouble.
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  5. oli700

    oli700 12g Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    you gave that up for coolness and patriotism.....a fair trade
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  6. Water Monkey

    Water Monkey The man, the myth, the monkey Moderator Supporter

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    Came here to say 'Merica
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  7. Lefty9

    Lefty9 .270 WIN

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    maybe I just been lucky , or there a perfect fit for my Stainless Ruger 1911 Commander that was converted to a .460 Rowland ; but the Magtech Guardian Gold .45 +P 185 grain JHP's @ 50 cents per ,went thru the barrel over 200 times last time at the range without a single hitch or failure to feed .
    I like the look of that 10 m.m wound channel !!
  8. nitesite

    nitesite Sheepdog Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Brad... Again, without me looking back thru the thread (sorry) With what magazines are you having misfeeds?
  9. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Staff Member Global Moderator Sponsor Moderator

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    Factory magazines would hang up even with ball ammo. I got a couple of the Kimber Protac magazines or whatever they're called and those have been fine with ball ammo and the Corbon but will still hang up with more traditional hollow points.

    Additionally, I saw my last post. Auto correct got me and decided reliability was relationship ability. My bad. It's fixed now.
  10. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Staff Member Global Moderator Sponsor Moderator

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    Picked up another +P load to try. The Inceptor Arx by Polycase.

    https://www.polycaseammo.com/project/inceptor-arx

    While made by Polycase, these are loaded in traditional brass cases for now.

    So far, all I can say is they feed from the magazine but it's a light projectile and I've seen in some videos that it's too light to cycle in shorter barrels while keyholing has been observed in others. In one video, the projectile was actually completely turned around backwards in ballistic gelatin.

    I don't have gelatin. But I will see if, 1. They cycle and 2. They keyhole through the targets.
  11. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I don't think I'd want to use this for SD

    You're basically turning your 45 into shooting a 115 gr 9mm bullet.

    • 20 Cartridges
    • 118 gr ARX®
    • 1307 fps / 448 ft. lbs.
  12. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Staff Member Global Moderator Sponsor Moderator

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    Right, and that's a concern.

    The projectile is super light, about half that of traditional ammunition (for each of the calibers offered). It's also very fast. It does however perform comparably to hollow point ammo in side by side gel tests.
  13. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You could test them using nitesites tater tunnel. That will show real world expansion factors.

    If you haven't seen it, he stacks a long row of potatoes between some 2x6's and shoots them like one would with gel.

    And afterwards, you can cook them for supper. Mashed taters and butter. Yum.

    I'm just kiddin' about eating them. I don't think I would. But it really does work great for testing bullet expansion no joke.
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  14. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Staff Member Global Moderator Sponsor Moderator

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    Now here's the thing.

    They're designed as non expanding. The light weight and bullet design are supposed to cause a rapid transfer of energy. But from at least a couple tests I've seen, that could also be in part due to tumbling. That said, at least through both plywood and a 2x4, the bullet has penetrated as deeply through gel as Federal HST.

    Still, the potato thing could be informative, especially if I can recover the bullet and determine the orientation at the point it stopped.
  15. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Tumbling isn't a bad thing.

    Expansion isn't a bad thing.

    Fragmentation isn't necessarily a bad thing either.

    They're just different ways to achieve the same common goal.

    But if you're wanting to perform a specific way, it's better to know exactly how it's going to perform.

    Looking forward to hearing your thoughts about it in the future. I'm always willing to learn something new and different and don't want to be too closed minded about nothing.

    If you can stack a couple of feet of potatoes in a row, you should be able to recover it unless it tumbles wildly out of the "tunnel".
  16. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Staff Member Global Moderator Sponsor Moderator

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    Well Mr. John, I'll do what I'm able to give it a fair shake.
  17. nitesite

    nitesite Sheepdog Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Can't wait to hear more.

    I think the traditional bullet is going to remain the choice of many.
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  18. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I think so too.

    230 grains of kapowee has been putting the smack down on bad guys for over a 100 years. There's a pretty good reason why it's still in circulation.

    It works.
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  19. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Staff Member Global Moderator Sponsor Moderator

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    Well, no shocker, I won't buy anymore of this ammo. I did a vey short video to catch any malfunctions or issues. I really thought it may be too light to cycle properly. Good news is it cycled fine, two magazines worth. It's not enough for a fair review but between the two magazines, not a single round was on target. So just to be certain, I loaded my regular ammo and put all 7 on target.

    I'm curious as to how you more knowledgeable folks would analyze this?

  20. nitesite

    nitesite Sheepdog Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Quit with that self depreciating attitude. You know a lot more than I do!
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