Results of gun care product evaluation

Discussion in 'Firearm Maintenance, Safety And Troubleshooting' started by diyguy, May 5, 2014.

  1. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ .308 Supporter

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    I don't know. I'll try it on the wife's Bicycle, but I haven't owned a motorcycle with chain drive in about 30 years.
  2. CaddmannQ

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    Scoop I think the oil is a little bit too sticky for chain lube and it attracts dirt until it dries up, which takes a long while unless it's hot out. It dries to sort of a gel and it will still collect dirt. Also it doesn't get down into the pins and rollers very easily.

    The truth is I was taught to take my chain off the bike, wash it in a can of gasoline, and then soak it in a can of oil for an hour, then hang it up to drip- dry overnight.

    Then I bought the Kawasaki 900 which has an endless chain! Argh!
    I used to shoot it every week with WD-40 then scrub it with a toothbrush, blow it with an air hose, and shoot it again with bel-ray chain lube. I'd let that dry a while and then wipe it off with a rag one time.

    Well it is day 72 and I will take my samples down off the shed roof today to see how they are doing.
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    Day 72:

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    In this untouched sample, it appears that the new formula is rusting up faster.
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  4. CaddmannQ

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    In this photo I have washed both samples with plain water and my fingers to remove accumulated detritus. I rubbed the samples hard with my fingers and water, trying to remove all traces of oil and dirt.

    The new sample seemed to wash off readily while the old formula seem to remain on the steel no matter how much I washed it with water and my fingers. It continued to feel lubricated or coated, while the other sample felt unlubricated or dry.

    Clearly the old formula protected better from rust, up to this point.
    14947821197721994439428.jpg Again the new formula is on the left, and the old formula on the right (the part which only has one hole.)

    When I wiped half of each piece clean with a rag 17 days ago and I thought I had removed all of the oil. I expected lots more rust than what I saw.

    What you see in the photo above is that the majority of the rust is in the area where the part was wiped clean, but the sample on the left has rust on all other areas as well.

    I would say that these parts have been rained on at least a dozen times, and now I have washed them.

    I'm going to put them back up on the roof and see what happens.
  5. Scoop

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    Yeah. I'm sticking w/ WD-40... I mean I am staying with WD-40.


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  6. Ghmann

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    A friend of mine once said "WD-40 will fix anything". Although I have used WD-40 on a wide variety of things, I've never used it on a firearm.
  7. nitesite

    nitesite Ammo Nerd Forum Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    This thread is a keeper.....
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  8. CaddmannQ

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    It's okay for cleaning and and removing crud, as it is mostly just plain old solvents. Very similar to ordinary mineral spirits paint thinner.

    It will remove some enamel paints instantly. If you have pinstriping done with One-shot it will wash it right off the car. It's actually a pretty good carburetor cleaner, considering it has no acid.

    But it's not a good lubricant, & it is not really oil. So I blow it all out of the gun and replace it with real oil.

    WD-40 Specialist long-term Anti-corrosion oil and WD-40 Specialist Spray and Stay gel lubricant are real lubricating oils, but they have other things in them: polymers or something. But they are not good solvents or good cleaners at all. They are completely different products than traditional WD-40.

    I think it's unfortunate that the anti-corrosion oil formula seems to be unavailable because from my testing it was definitely better than the new spray and stay gel formula.

    Now that I have literally washed everything I could wash off of these pieces of Steel with ordinary water and my fingers, we will see what kind of protection remains on the theoretically unprotected parts.
  9. CaddmannQ

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    Day 96:

    The old formula continues to protect better even though I wiped and washed both of these samples with water, 24 days ago.
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    Metal treated with the new formula seems to be developing rust much faster.
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  10. ripjack13

    ripjack13 Resident Sawdust Maker Staff Member Administrator Forum Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Oh...my....god....
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  11. Djcala

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    Ok so basically for the firearms i store outside on top of my shed for months on end i need to spray them with WD 40 ?

    Just busting chops. Enjoyed this thread thanks for taking time to do it. Forgive my attempt at humor im on couch foot propped up and on couple pain killers i broke my dang big toe today.
  12. CaddmannQ

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    Well if the pain killers don't help, you can spray that big toe with WD-40. I know I read that in the National Enquirer . . . ;)

    My main motivation at this point is just to find out which is better: the old formula or the new one. I think we've pretty well shown that the new formula is inferior.
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  13. CaddmannQ

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    Day 123.

    The samples have been exposed for 4 months now. It's pretty clear that the old formula is still protecting the metal more, even after I washed it off with water. The new formula has given up The Ghost and is rusting freely.

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    I'm going to go put these back on the roof and ignore them for another month. This is just a matter of curiosity because it's clear that the new formula is totally inferior to the old.
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  14. Scoop

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    This is working for me:

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