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Discussion in 'Long Guns' started by John A., Jul 13, 2011.

  1. GirlsLoveGuns2

    GirlsLoveGuns2 .30-06

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    Ah ok, makes sense now. Thanks for the clarification and the link. :)
  2. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Re: Class 3 fun this weekend

    sn3akyguy nailed it.

    Though a lot of people misinterpret it as a license to own anything that is regulated by the NFA, although in reality, a license isn't required by Federal regulations.

    But you do have to submit to a background check and pay a (one time) tax to own them.
  3. Sn3aKyGuY

    Sn3aKyGuY .30-06

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    Bingo, just to transfer them do you need the FFL. Otherwise a few forums, 2x2 pictures and a couple fingerprint cards + $200 and you're good to go. That's per weapon, and you have to have an additional stamp for destructive devices such as flash bangs, grenades, rockets etc etc. Good luck with that one though.

    BTW, was that a copy of the stamp hanging off the bottom of the MP5SD?
  4. .40-.45

    .40-.45 .270 WIN

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    full auto is better than Viagra , and to be clear I dont take Viagra hahahahahhaa!!!!!!!!
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    .40-.45 .270 WIN

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    or need above said medication
  6. GirlsLoveGuns2

    GirlsLoveGuns2 .30-06

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    Haha, I like how you're covering your ass (really the other area) in every way possible ;)
  7. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    No you don't necessarily need an FFL to transfer them if it's in the same state you live in and can do a simple face to face transfer once the paperwork comes back approved, although I think one state requires at least a C&R license, but that's not a requirement on the Federal level.

    But if you buy it online and have it shipped, you'll have to have it transfered through an FFL.

    I think I know what you're asking about the tag hanging off the magazine in the first video I linked.

    No, that was a tag with a number on it. See, the magazines were modified to work in that particular weapon and I numbered them in case I had any trouble with a particular one so I could troubleshoot it easier if I had to.

    The 36 round magazines were originally for an old WWII Suomi M31 submachinegun, but I did all the work converting it over to the Lage upper.

    They originally looked like
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    But after some milling and welding on a new catch and stops so it is hand tuned to fit my gun, look like this

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    As for the actual tax stamp, it is small enough to fit on the tag, but the rest of the document it's stuck to is the size of a regular sheet of paper and has all the owners identifying info and stuff. I keep all my original tax stamps in a safe place and keep copies with the guns in a BDS multifunction pouch that a buddy of mine gave me from shot show.
  8. AC45ACP

    AC45ACP .270 WIN

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  9. John A.

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  10. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Staff Member Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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  11. AC45ACP

    AC45ACP .270 WIN

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    It's a Great solid stock and supper Light, I'm looking to buy a CTR 0r another UBR to mount on and see if I like that better.
  12. Ripsnortr

    Ripsnortr 20g

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    I am sure this question is outside the scope of this thread, but I am curious because I am by nature a tinkerer. I would love to be able to have the ability to mess with those types of items, but I think that requires me to first get a Class III license, am I correct?

    I just wonder what it takes to get that (or if I am wrong, what do I need to get) before I start even thinking about it. I have heard it takes three or more months to get approval, which to me is fine, I have a lot more to learn during that time, but why not start the process before there is a need and get it out of the way. I haven't done much for research yet, but might as well ask you guys that have alread gone through the process.
  13. AC45ACP

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    Well there are a few ways to do it. depending on what you want to build(own).
    The best way is to transfer everything in to a trust, that way you you won't need the sigutare of the "CLEO" Cheif Law enforcement officer. The trust came be expessive.

    The way I did it is build a AR pistol then I went to the ATF website and printed up a FORM 1 and went to my local Police dept and had my prints done and had the police cheif sign my paper work and you do that so you have two copys you need to have the lower that your going to SBR or the CAN that you want to run because the serial number need to go on the paper work. Mail off the paper work and a Check for $200 and wait. It took my SBR right around 100 days on a From 1
  14. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Staff Member Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Same process took me eight months for my suppressor.

    Whatever you decide to do, don't submit your paperwork around the Feb. tax season. It ends up taking twice as long to get it back due to the influx of folks with a little extra cash all submitting their paperwork at the same time.
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    So there isn't an overall approval to allow you to purchase these items, but a form process for each individual item sounds like?
  16. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    My replies in red

  17. Ripsnortr

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    Yup, that covered what I was curious about and then som. Noe back to more stamped goodies!
  18. John A.

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    Changes to my Military Armament

    After having the gun for a couple of years now, I can honestly say I have always liked it. I guess the first change I did was add an AR15 stock adapter so I could get a good (or at least familiar) cheekweld. Then the bug hit me again and I am fairly certain that I was the first person to add a magpul buttstock to a Mac10. It didn't take long, there were pictures popping up just like it all over the net.

    I was always told that was a major form of flattery, but I like having something unlike everyone else, so I sat on it for a long time and got a lot more time behind the trigger, so now I made some rather big changes for not just looks, but function too.


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    One of the first things I did was change over from a single feed to a doublefeed bolt so I didn't have to use the crappy old single stack zytel mags anymore and could use a magazine from an old WWII Finnish M31 Suomi that I converted and handfitted to the gun (trust me, a 36 round doublestack mag is a lot easier to load than a 32 round single stack mag).

    The mags may be old, but they're probably the best magazines I have ever used. I call them my Cadillac mags.

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    One of the big things that had always bugged me about the gun was the fixed iron sights would not cowitness with an optic. And no matter how hard you pressed down on the buttstock, could never get a comfortable enough cheekweld to use it with the aftermarket stock.

    As you can see in the above picture of the gun, the sights just simply sit way too low.

    So, it's time to do some changin' and take that bad boy to the next level.

    The AR15 stock is off, and now has an HK licensed Choate MP5K PDW folding stock. And to keep with the subgun genre, has a short broomhandle grip on the front.

    I added a siderail, an offset light mount, and surefire tac light for bumps in the night.

    And for more grins and giggles, I used a reamed YHM Phantom flash hider, which works very well with the 9mm in full auto in low light conditions when the suppressor isn't in use.

    And now for even more cream on the crop.

    I milled the fixed iron sights off and machined a few new slots to accomodate the new CAA flip back up sights in conjunction with the old Eotech and refinished the upper in satin black KG Gunkote after the machinework was finished. And now I actually can use iron sights if I need to.

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  19. nitesite

    nitesite Average Guy Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    That is frikkin' SICK, John. In the best possible way!

    Great post! Annnnnnnd........ a +1
  20. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Staff Member Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    She's beautiful John!

    Most impressive Sir, very nice work...

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