talo deluxe edition
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Talo is a distributor. They offer slightly speacial editions of standard product from OEM’s like Mossberg, Ruger etc. You can check out their website or probably call them directly to get the specifics on this shotgun. From the pics it does not look much different than the standard Mossberg.
I purchased a Talo edition from GB. The wood furniture and compactness of the gun convinced me to “pull the trigger”.
Capacity is 4 plus 1. Cylinder bore (non threaded). Really cool XS sighting system. Oversized charging handle. The gun is super light and will make a good HD or walking in the woods shotgun.
This is the sight picture (however mine in not tritium).
This is my 7th Mossberg shotgun. Four pumps, 2 Autos and an O/U. I need to take a family photo. My wife tells me I’m done and this time I have to agree (at least on the Mossy Shotgun subject). I really hope Mossy doesn’t come out with a side by side!
Capacity is 4 plus 1. Cylinder bore (non threaded). Really cool XS sighting system. Oversized charging handle. The gun is super light and will make a good HD or walking in the woods shotgun.
This is the sight picture (however mine in not tritium).
This is my 7th Mossberg shotgun. Four pumps, 2 Autos and an O/U. I need to take a family photo. My wife tells me I’m done and this time I have to agree (at least on the Mossy Shotgun subject). I really hope Mossy doesn’t come out with a side by side!
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Had a free Sunday afternoon so I decided to tear down my new Mossy 930 Talo edition for its inaugural inspection, thorough cleaning and lube. Everything looked good and I can’t wait to get it out to the range for some slugs and buckshot to check accuracy.
Some pics of the disassembled and reassembled 930T.
Some pics of the disassembled and reassembled 930T.
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Mikedtkd
.22LR
This was my Mossberg 930 Home Security Custom 7+1 build. It's kinda the same thing as the Talo.
It started life as a 28" wood all-purpose field then I switched barrels to the 18.5", and added the SPX +3 magazine extension and spring. Then the Mossberg oversized charging handle to top it off.
I liked to call this- "Old-school Tactical"
I had to sell it this past fall because of the pandemic and we were strapped for bill money.
Cycled everything I put in it flawlessly.
I still regret selling it.
It started life as a 28" wood all-purpose field then I switched barrels to the 18.5", and added the SPX +3 magazine extension and spring. Then the Mossberg oversized charging handle to top it off.
I liked to call this- "Old-school Tactical"
I had to sell it this past fall because of the pandemic and we were strapped for bill money.
Cycled everything I put in it flawlessly.
I still regret selling it.
For those who are still interested in this post.
Range day today with the T930. It was frick’n hot (~88 F) and very humid but no complaints. First shots with my new T930 (Talo edition Mossberg 930). For comparison I also brought my tried and true M500 “first cousin” for comparative purposes.
I shot 3 targets for each shotgun at 3 different ranges. Typical short distance home defense purposes. 25 yards, 15 yards and 7 yards. I used 2 different loads at each distance. Two types of ammo; Slug and 9 shot buck. Ammo photo and target set up photo below.
The next group of photos are the results at each range. It’s not scientific but certainly representative of what to expect from each gun with each type of ammo under 0 stress. Under stress it’s another story. I’m really trying to determine the force multiplier of the action speed and enhanced sights on the T930 over the standard bead sights of the M500.
Some other miscellaneous notes.
1. The enhanced “dot the I” sights on the T930 worked great. It requires a little more time for target acquisition than the bead sight but delivers much better results especially at longer ranges. At 7 yards it makes no difference. For hunting these GG&G sights would be perfect. I would like the tritium version on my HD gun.
2. The limb saver recoil pad on my M500 is better that the standard recoil pad on the T930. The T930 would benefit from a custom recoil pad if you wanted to go that way. I will not.
3. I’m sure the semi auto action of the T930 is an advantage but for this test both actions performed flawlessly and were not under any time constraints.
4. On the 7 yard target. The T930 slug test (ie. the first slug shot) POI was right on the POA. I fired the second shot of 9 pellet buck and it obliterated the target area. For home defense this is a serious OHCH for intruders. The M500 was still a serious OUCH as you can see. Really no difference for practical purposes.
5. The T930 does have a heavier barrel than the M500. I will post specs on a subsequent post. The shotgun is also noticeably heavier. It’s a joy to shot and feels great in the hand and shoulders nicely.
6. I really liked the T930 on this first few rounds fired. I’m first and foremost a pump shotgun guy but in the HD role I can see the benefits of the semi auto action. I will try and upgrade the T930 over time with a plus 2 or 3 tube and a couple of other upgrades to make it a solid HD contender. I must say that it’s a beautiful shotgun and is the prettier of the cousins but probably more maintenance. The M500 pump is not as pretty but will serve you well in every area and will get down and dirty without the drama.
Range day today with the T930. It was frick’n hot (~88 F) and very humid but no complaints. First shots with my new T930 (Talo edition Mossberg 930). For comparison I also brought my tried and true M500 “first cousin” for comparative purposes.
I shot 3 targets for each shotgun at 3 different ranges. Typical short distance home defense purposes. 25 yards, 15 yards and 7 yards. I used 2 different loads at each distance. Two types of ammo; Slug and 9 shot buck. Ammo photo and target set up photo below.
The next group of photos are the results at each range. It’s not scientific but certainly representative of what to expect from each gun with each type of ammo under 0 stress. Under stress it’s another story. I’m really trying to determine the force multiplier of the action speed and enhanced sights on the T930 over the standard bead sights of the M500.
Some other miscellaneous notes.
1. The enhanced “dot the I” sights on the T930 worked great. It requires a little more time for target acquisition than the bead sight but delivers much better results especially at longer ranges. At 7 yards it makes no difference. For hunting these GG&G sights would be perfect. I would like the tritium version on my HD gun.
2. The limb saver recoil pad on my M500 is better that the standard recoil pad on the T930. The T930 would benefit from a custom recoil pad if you wanted to go that way. I will not.
3. I’m sure the semi auto action of the T930 is an advantage but for this test both actions performed flawlessly and were not under any time constraints.
4. On the 7 yard target. The T930 slug test (ie. the first slug shot) POI was right on the POA. I fired the second shot of 9 pellet buck and it obliterated the target area. For home defense this is a serious OHCH for intruders. The M500 was still a serious OUCH as you can see. Really no difference for practical purposes.
5. The T930 does have a heavier barrel than the M500. I will post specs on a subsequent post. The shotgun is also noticeably heavier. It’s a joy to shot and feels great in the hand and shoulders nicely.
6. I really liked the T930 on this first few rounds fired. I’m first and foremost a pump shotgun guy but in the HD role I can see the benefits of the semi auto action. I will try and upgrade the T930 over time with a plus 2 or 3 tube and a couple of other upgrades to make it a solid HD contender. I must say that it’s a beautiful shotgun and is the prettier of the cousins but probably more maintenance. The M500 pump is not as pretty but will serve you well in every area and will get down and dirty without the drama.
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For those who may be interested. I had the T930 at the range yesterday. I wanted to shoot some birdshot thru her just to get some rounds under the belt.
I thought I would shoot some targets to see how the birdshot patterned at 25, 15 and 7 yards. I used the same targets from the above post.
The pics are taken using a 100 watt backlight to highlight the pattern density.
What I noticed is that even for home defense bird shot can be pretty effective at short distances and not as devastating as a slug or buckshot. When loading my HD shotgun I put 2 or 3 rounds of birdshot as the first option backed up by buckshot and keep the slugs for last.
I thought I would shoot some targets to see how the birdshot patterned at 25, 15 and 7 yards. I used the same targets from the above post.
The pics are taken using a 100 watt backlight to highlight the pattern density.
What I noticed is that even for home defense bird shot can be pretty effective at short distances and not as devastating as a slug or buckshot. When loading my HD shotgun I put 2 or 3 rounds of birdshot as the first option backed up by buckshot and keep the slugs for last.
For those who are interested. A few weeks back I noticed that the wooden fore end on my Talo 930 was cracked. Long story short Mossberg replaced it quickly and efficiently. Thanks to Mossberg service no complaints from my end.
I had the shot gun at the range yesterday for some dynamic shooting drills together with my conceal carry pistol. I put a full box if #8 bird shot thru it mostly concentrating on target acquisition and reloads. Only one issue with a failure to feed but I put that one on me. I inserted the shell with the crimp side pointed down at 45 degrees.
I’m going to put at least two more box of shells thru it before I break it down for inspection and maintenance.
Love to shoot the gun. It shoulders nicely, minimal recoil and target acquisition is quick enough to get the bulk of the lead on target in a short amount of time. It’s configured in a 4 + 1 capacity so I may buy a +2 mag extension at some point.
I had the shot gun at the range yesterday for some dynamic shooting drills together with my conceal carry pistol. I put a full box if #8 bird shot thru it mostly concentrating on target acquisition and reloads. Only one issue with a failure to feed but I put that one on me. I inserted the shell with the crimp side pointed down at 45 degrees.
I’m going to put at least two more box of shells thru it before I break it down for inspection and maintenance.
Love to shoot the gun. It shoulders nicely, minimal recoil and target acquisition is quick enough to get the bulk of the lead on target in a short amount of time. It’s configured in a 4 + 1 capacity so I may buy a +2 mag extension at some point.
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TheRude1
20g
I do like the wood on it over the polymer!
ricky_bobby
.270 WIN
So this thread has convinced me that perhaps I need to add this 'old school' special edition 930, especially since I don't own one already - My issues are this-
-Dwindling stock supply of it, I can only find one with the XS sights under $800, and I can find one with the bead and factory +2 extension, unfortunately I can't find the XS sights with factory extension SKU
Bead sight extension model is listed at $775 - XS sighted model is $740
Which do I spring for? Factory or S&J +2 extension is right around $90 if I went with the XS sighted model
I have beads on all my pumps, and I have ghost ring tritiums on my Beretta 1301T -
My other qualm is shortening LOP - Mesa Tactical sells their recoil tube and spring set on their website for $50, calling it the "930 buttstock shortening kit) which I would have to buy, I need about a 12.5" LOP for comfort and manueverability, I'm not a huge guy - I should be able to in theory fit the Mesa parts, chop 1.5" off the stock or so, and grind the recoil pad to fit (or get an alternate), right?
Its a big investment if I pull the trigger on this one but I feel this is probably the best example of the 930 series for my uses and the wood enables me to keep it as an heirloom to pass to my son, instead of 'just another black gun'
-Dwindling stock supply of it, I can only find one with the XS sights under $800, and I can find one with the bead and factory +2 extension, unfortunately I can't find the XS sights with factory extension SKU
Bead sight extension model is listed at $775 - XS sighted model is $740
Which do I spring for? Factory or S&J +2 extension is right around $90 if I went with the XS sighted model
I have beads on all my pumps, and I have ghost ring tritiums on my Beretta 1301T -
My other qualm is shortening LOP - Mesa Tactical sells their recoil tube and spring set on their website for $50, calling it the "930 buttstock shortening kit) which I would have to buy, I need about a 12.5" LOP for comfort and manueverability, I'm not a huge guy - I should be able to in theory fit the Mesa parts, chop 1.5" off the stock or so, and grind the recoil pad to fit (or get an alternate), right?
Its a big investment if I pull the trigger on this one but I feel this is probably the best example of the 930 series for my uses and the wood enables me to keep it as an heirloom to pass to my son, instead of 'just another black gun'
@ricky_bobby my 2 cents. If you need the XS sight system for long shots then that is the way to go. Bead sights on shotguns work well. Depends on your application. Same with the extension.
The LOP is an issue. The beautiful look of the wood is what drew me to purchase the gun. Chopping up the stock may take some of the charm out of the heirloom. Maybe your son and his sons after him will be ok with the factory LOP.
The LOP is an issue. The beautiful look of the wood is what drew me to purchase the gun. Chopping up the stock may take some of the charm out of the heirloom. Maybe your son and his sons after him will be ok with the factory LOP.
Bobster
.30-06
Noting that you don't like black, I would still get a used polymer stock and shorten THAT rather than bugger up the wood stock. You could always paint it faux wood color...
ricky_bobby
.270 WIN
You guys make great points - for the price of entry its a hard pill to swallow to chop things up - I would have it done professionally most likely if I went this route (Limbsaver told me they can shorten a stock and fit a pad for $125 or so which is worth it to have it done well) - But again we are starting at just about $800, which is $150 *LESS* than I paid for my Beretta 1301T, just 3 years ago, jeez.....
Not that I don't like black, I have *plenty* of black guns, Mav88 with Hogue PG and Forend, half dozen scary black rifles and shorter barreled pistols, M590 with 18" barrel and S&J extension (7+1) sporting Magpul SGA furniture in gray -
Now that I have a son though, I really am looking to add to my gun collection with more traditional and better looking items if I am going to spend the money, a standard M500 with wood furniture is a dime a dozen (I have one of these with the old school corn cob forend) but it will mean more when I do pass it do him, there is something about the wood furniture which speaks to you, and even if he isn't set up for a 12.5"-13" LOP (doubtful, as I know guys 6+ feet who run Magpul stocks with no spacers on their SG's), he would appreciate that each firearm was purpose built and modified at some point by me or a professional to fit me -
You guys will probably rake me over the coals, but I am willing to give the new Remington 870's since they are sending them out with hardwood, a chance, as I've heard better things about fitment, finish, and QC since the new production started rolling out the doors a few months back...
Not that I don't like black, I have *plenty* of black guns, Mav88 with Hogue PG and Forend, half dozen scary black rifles and shorter barreled pistols, M590 with 18" barrel and S&J extension (7+1) sporting Magpul SGA furniture in gray -
Now that I have a son though, I really am looking to add to my gun collection with more traditional and better looking items if I am going to spend the money, a standard M500 with wood furniture is a dime a dozen (I have one of these with the old school corn cob forend) but it will mean more when I do pass it do him, there is something about the wood furniture which speaks to you, and even if he isn't set up for a 12.5"-13" LOP (doubtful, as I know guys 6+ feet who run Magpul stocks with no spacers on their SG's), he would appreciate that each firearm was purpose built and modified at some point by me or a professional to fit me -
You guys will probably rake me over the coals, but I am willing to give the new Remington 870's since they are sending them out with hardwood, a chance, as I've heard better things about fitment, finish, and QC since the new production started rolling out the doors a few months back...
ricky_bobby
.270 WIN
^^Is that 'new' Remington production?
If it is I would buy one.
That is just a random pic I plucked off the internet.