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VA: Gun Confiscation Comes to Virginia

Discussion in 'Firearm Related' started by Scoop, Dec 12, 2019.

  1. Woods Wanderer

    Woods Wanderer .410

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    Looks like the left has learned how to eat the elephant..... One bite at a time.
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  2. hombre243

    hombre243 20g Premier Member

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    It is all black. Very hard to read
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  3. hombre243

    hombre243 20g Premier Member

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    I was in Norfolk for half a year in '03. I almost moved there. I am glad I came home.
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  4. meanstreak

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    Things are heating up in Virginia. The governor has declared a state of emergency .
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  5. Oddcaliber

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    The peasants are getting ready to storm the castle!
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  6. Scoop

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    Link -> https://www.americanthinker.com/art..._ground_zero_in_the_war_over_gun_control.html

    When Democrats won control of both houses of the Virginia Legislature November 5, 2019, Virginia gun-owners got a rude wake-up call. Now that wake-up call is spreading to gun-owners throughout the rest of the 49 states.

    In July 2019, Gov. Ralph Northam proposed a package of eight proposals that would tighten Virginia's gun laws, known as some of the least restrictive in the country. Currently, Virginia's gun control measures of merit ban the sale of firearms only to high-risk individuals and those convicted of domestic violence. However, the proposals would turn the least restrictive into what some would call dangerously restrictive, a premeditated strike against the Second Amendment. Northam's proposed package calls for legislation
    ... [restatement of items found in OP and @John A. replies 16, 17 & 18]

    Incoming Democratic speaker of the House of Delegates Eileen Filler Corn said gun control is a top Democratic priority for 2020 as she was recently interviewed for Fox News's On the Hill. This puts the Democrat majority squarely in the middle of a groundswell of activism. As Virginia becomes ground zero for virulent gun control activists, such as Moms Demand Action, they are met by the equally fierce Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL), who are determined to protect Second Amendment rights. While Virginia is home to the National Rifle Association (NRA), the VCDL grassroots organization, founded in 1994, is taking the lead in the fight against the legislation. This fight, while still predominantly Virginia-focused, is turning into growing national movement via social media, as word is spreading to gun-owners across the country. The concern is that what happens in Virginia could soon be coming to a state near you, or your own state, via legislative initiatives.

    The gun control topic has become so impassioned that VCDL is mounting a 50,000-plus lobbying effort slated for January 20 in the Richmond capital, the day the Democrats assume power. However, the battle is also being fought throughout the state, county by county, city by city. In response to Governor Northam's statement that laws would be enforced — "if we have constitutional laws on the books and law enforcement officers are not enforcing those laws on the books, then there are going to be consequences, but I'll cross that bridge if and when we get to it" — the populace is banding together at their respective county board meetings.

    Hence the rise of the Second Amendment "sanctuary county" movement. Prince William County's December 10 meeting was standing room only as the County Board voted on and passed the resolution declaring Prince William County a sanctuary county and that it would not "enforce any unconstitutional law." To date, with the recent addition of Fauquier County, with direct access to Washington, D.C., 87 out of 95 counties, 11 out of 38 independent cities, and 20 towns have adopted Second Amendment sanctuary resolutions in Virginia.

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  7. Scoop

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    --- Continued from previous reply ---

    The battle facing Virginians on both sides of the debate is not slowing. Northam, surprised at the vitriolic response of gun-owning citizens tried the divide and conquer tactic when he introduced a provision on Dec. 9 that would grandfather in existing guns that met the proposed weapons ban. However, two key developments have recently both enraged and further energized the gun rights movement.

    • Thursday, January 2, four budget hearings were held throughout the state with attention zeroing in on a proposed budget line item calling for a $4.8-million, 18-officer team to enforce the governor's proposed "assault weapons" ban.
    • A legislative draft of a bill was proposed by incoming Senate majority leader Dick Saslaw, making it a felony to possess a pistol, rifle, or shotgun that falls under its "assault weapon" definition.
    Saslaw's definition of an assault weapon would expand to include a firearm magazine that holds more than 10 rounds of ammunition. So if a gun-owner owns a popular model like the Glock semi-auto, the standard magazines that come with the gun would make the owner in violation of the Virginia law if passed. This raises the hotly contested confiscation specter — and what the gun-owner will do versus what the authorities will do to the gun-owner.

    The scheduled rally on January 20 at the Richmond state capitol will be watched very carefully, because it also has the potential to spiral out of control. Social media channels that discuss the subject daily are spreading the intel that groups like Antifa, the Nazi Party, et al. will be joining the fray, leaving it up to subscribers and viewers to distinguish between those channels that carefully vet
    information they receive — e.g., law enforcement, actual government documentation — and those that spread the personal opinions of the channels' owners. As with all channels, the comments sections are indicative of the how strongly people feel about the situation in Virginia and what some are prepared to do.

    Gun-owners are no less saddened by Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech, or Columbine than their fellow citizens, but they also realize what is at stake if a government body passes laws designed to disarm its citizens in violation of their rights guaranteed by the Constitution and reinforced by the Supreme Court (see D.C. v. Heller).

    It seems poignant, and perhaps apropos, that the state that was home to Washington, Jefferson, Monroe, and Madison, and so dominant in the history of the founding of our country, is now once again a battlefield of the people versus their government. On which side will Virginia fall this time?
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  8. John A.

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    Sadly, 3 out of 4 antigun bills have already moved forward to the house for a vote, likely in February. The only one that has so far stalled has been the red flag law. And sadly, one of them has had 2 repub. supporters.

    I find the "state of emergency" especially disheartening.

    For starters, they're putting up fences around the VA state house to keep AMERICANS out. While they detest the thought of putting up a border fence to keep terrorists out of the country and thus denying American civil rights to protest government.

    They are calling the protesters "right wing extremists" when they should be calling them AMERICANS.

    They are putting up mobile cell towers near the capital. While I can't find the video of it that I saw on one of the mainstream media sources to link the video here, I would like to say this isn't for the convenience of protestors folks.

    This is so all cell phones will automatically connect to them because being nearer, will have the strongest signal. That concerns me in several ways. Eavesdropping on free speech, and with the likely hood of a false flag event, censoring people on the ground from being able to put the word out what's going on.

    Virginia national guard have been placed on alert.

    One report I read (unconfirmed) even said there was a guy who passed some semi trucks moving toward Richmond carrying black painted ARMORED bulldozers painted with the words state police on them.

    There is a lot of nefarious things going on in virginia, and it's not coming from the patriots who have the right to protest what government is doing.
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  9. John A.

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    They have set up a no fly zone for Monday. Likely to prevent video footage of how many thousands of people are surrounding the capital to be used as propaganda against them.

    They have already set up fences with privacy screens in them to also prevent seeing much on the other sides of the fences as well.

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  10. John A.

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  11. Scoop

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    RE: Virginia's State of Emergency

    Sensible people will not fare well.

    They will be caught between the jaws of a vice. On one side are the leftist antifa goons; on the other the rightist neo-nazi bozos.

    Anybody wonder why I don't like crowds or strangers?

    The best place to be in Virginia is elsewhere.
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  12. John A.

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    I don't like crowds either. I don't like the way the state gov is handling the affairs, and the blood is on their hands if anything happens by pushing people to this point against the will of the people.
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  13. CaddmannQ

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    This is the age of wireless web protest. EMR FTW.
    BUT, a landline relay just for backup folks.
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  14. meanstreak

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    The 2nd does not matter to the Democrats no matter what they say. Their actions prove that. Hell, the constitution does not matter to them.
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  15. John A.

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    Been looking at some pictures and livefeeds that aren't getting shut down (they're all being censored guys) but there are estimates of upwards of 200,000 people with feet on the ground in Richmond right now.

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    Portables, MiM intercept towers are at saturation.

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    Apparently it wasn't a white extremist rally after all [we knew it wasn't all along]
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  16. Oddcaliber

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    Looks like old govenor Blackface can't contain the truth!
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    Three cheers for the Grayson county Sheriffs!
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  18. John A.

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    More pics

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    On the corner of 10th and main. Some shit is starting to happen. Small group out here screaming at all of us calling us white supremacists

    Lots of police have showed up. They're pushing us away and giving them a corner of the street to protest

    Tons of press just come out of nowhere to run up and interview them

    This shows the media’s true intent.

    We now have a helicopter above us, much more police presence, at snipers on the roof everywhere

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