ok I guess I have been a sleep. I got my 590A1 and SPX almost 10 years ago. Back then it was Mossberg vs Remington. 870 vs 500 or 590. Cross bolt safety vs top tang safety. I never owned a Remington but always thought they were a good buy for a shotgun. And firearm owners having good choices is always a good thing in my book. Remingtons had way more parts/mods avaliable compared to a mossy so I was kinda envious of them because of that. But I didn’t need 20 different barrel lengths to choose from so I never felt like the mossberg limited me in my aftermarket choices. Fast forward to today, I am looking in the shotgun section of glocktalk and there are plenty of comments on how Remington shot guns of today are bad quality and pretty much to be avoided. Many peeps say get the mossberg for a quality shotgun, less headaches, and good quality. How the Cerberus Capital/FreedomGroup that took over Remington has ruined a good product, etc. I like to read how the general firearm community is now promoting Mossberg, they are learning what I have known/experienced for many years now. I am not happy that an American firearm company is turning out undependable products. I alway want good competition. Remington needs to step it up and get back into a viable Mossberg vs Remington chatter. That was always good fun talk.