Zimmerman, pre and post trial discussion
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Re: Ted Nugent on the Zimmerman episode
I'm hearing this phrase, "honest reflection", a lot lately. Usually associated with something like this sign:
Story: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/07/16/ ... over-race/
So in the spirit of "Honest Reflection", I've been reflecting on my various security measures. That they are functioning properly, my ammo box is full and handy, and all my weapons are loaded, clean and ready to rock.
Being an old white guy living out in the sticks in MS, and not Muslim I may be a target, but I'll be damned if I'll be a victim. :evil:
MikeD said:
I'm hearing this phrase, "honest reflection", a lot lately. Usually associated with something like this sign:
Story: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/07/16/ ... over-race/
So in the spirit of "Honest Reflection", I've been reflecting on my various security measures. That they are functioning properly, my ammo box is full and handy, and all my weapons are loaded, clean and ready to rock.
Being an old white guy living out in the sticks in MS, and not Muslim I may be a target, but I'll be damned if I'll be a victim. :evil:
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Re: Ted Nugent on the Zimmerman episode
Honest reflection. Yep, seems like I've heard that term before being thrown around a few times recently.
The only folks that should be having an honest reflection here are Mr. Martin's parents if you ask me. That kid was heading down a wrong path already. That night his true colors showed and its unfortunate for Mr. Zimmerman to do what he had to do.
All these people crying foul, rioting in the streets, etc........... are full of you know what. Put them in Mr. Zimmerman's shoes and see if they have a change of opinion. Somehow I have a feeling they would do exactly the same without a moment of pause if they were.
YMMV as usual.
Honest reflection. Yep, seems like I've heard that term before being thrown around a few times recently.
The only folks that should be having an honest reflection here are Mr. Martin's parents if you ask me. That kid was heading down a wrong path already. That night his true colors showed and its unfortunate for Mr. Zimmerman to do what he had to do.
All these people crying foul, rioting in the streets, etc........... are full of you know what. Put them in Mr. Zimmerman's shoes and see if they have a change of opinion. Somehow I have a feeling they would do exactly the same without a moment of pause if they were.
YMMV as usual.
Re: Ted Nugent on the Zimmerman episode
Holder flapping his lips at a NAACP speech. He obviously wants to eliminate anyone's ability to defend themselves. :evil: His comment about a "duty to retreat" really pisses me off. If that were the law, George Washington would have run away from the Brits, and this country would not exist. If we had "duty to retreat" in today's world, the bad guys would own every public space. Screw Holder. :x :x
Holder flapping his lips at a NAACP speech. He obviously wants to eliminate anyone's ability to defend themselves. :evil: His comment about a "duty to retreat" really pisses me off. If that were the law, George Washington would have run away from the Brits, and this country would not exist. If we had "duty to retreat" in today's world, the bad guys would own every public space. Screw Holder. :x :x
Re: Ted Nugent on the Zimmerman episode
Looks like the Congressional Black Caucus is declaring war on whitey . They might want to review the FBI stats on who's doing what to who first. Card carrying professional victims, which gets them all kinds of freebies. :x
ripjack13 said:
Looks like the Congressional Black Caucus is declaring war on whitey . They might want to review the FBI stats on who's doing what to who first. Card carrying professional victims, which gets them all kinds of freebies. :x
I don't think this was ever about race until politics and the media got involved and skewed things the way they wanted it.
Darn tootin'.
I happen to agree with him right now, but probably not the way he is thinking
Black people and other minorities and even illegals get special preference to getting a job. This is known fact. Even though the law says it's illegal to discriminate against "race", but businesses still get tax breaks and other incentives for hiring "minorities", so it's illegal, but not really.
Black people and other minorities and even illegals getting "special" grants and things to pay for a college education whereas I had to work a full time job AND go to school to get and pay for my higher education.
If everyone wants a level playing field, I'm all for it. I say a good place to start would be to make everyone equal.
How is that for blunt honesty Senator Rush?
And if anyone were to read this and think that I am prejudice, believe me, I am not in the least, just stating facts.
I agree that people shouldn't be profiled by their skin color, wholeheartedly, but at the same time, their skin color shouldn't automatically entitle them to extra perks either because of it.
Darn tootin'.
I happen to agree with him right now, but probably not the way he is thinking
Black people and other minorities and even illegals get special preference to getting a job. This is known fact. Even though the law says it's illegal to discriminate against "race", but businesses still get tax breaks and other incentives for hiring "minorities", so it's illegal, but not really.
Black people and other minorities and even illegals getting "special" grants and things to pay for a college education whereas I had to work a full time job AND go to school to get and pay for my higher education.
If everyone wants a level playing field, I'm all for it. I say a good place to start would be to make everyone equal.
How is that for blunt honesty Senator Rush?
And if anyone were to read this and think that I am prejudice, believe me, I am not in the least, just stating facts.
I agree that people shouldn't be profiled by their skin color, wholeheartedly, but at the same time, their skin color shouldn't automatically entitle them to extra perks either because of it.
Racism is alive and thriving in the US.....but it is coming from a different direction than it did years ago.
The fact that we actually have a "Congressional Black Caucus" screams racism. If we are going to start fresh we need to call it for what it is from all sides, being a minority in the US should not give you a free pass on being a racist. Until all sides ignore color, etc., we are just going to keep running in circles.
Not every white on black or black on white crime is racially motivated, in fact I would venture to guess that the vast majority of them are not. Regardless, it should not be the first conclusion one jumps to, like everything else, look to the evidence and let it guide you to what motivated the crime.
We profile everyone we see every day. Whether it be based on race, clothes, demeanor, height, width, shoes, etc. We do it, we all do it and as long as we all look, dress and behave differently, we will continue to do til the end of our time here.
I "profile" people all the time, even my own family and friends. It's what keeps me alive and out of trouble. I live and travel through areas where I cannot afford to be oblivious to everyone that walks up to me. It's an unforgiving world out there and there are people of all colors and backgrounds that want to inflict harm. Some may call this paranoia, I call it accepting the reality of my environment.
The fact that we actually have a "Congressional Black Caucus" screams racism. If we are going to start fresh we need to call it for what it is from all sides, being a minority in the US should not give you a free pass on being a racist. Until all sides ignore color, etc., we are just going to keep running in circles.
Not every white on black or black on white crime is racially motivated, in fact I would venture to guess that the vast majority of them are not. Regardless, it should not be the first conclusion one jumps to, like everything else, look to the evidence and let it guide you to what motivated the crime.
We profile everyone we see every day. Whether it be based on race, clothes, demeanor, height, width, shoes, etc. We do it, we all do it and as long as we all look, dress and behave differently, we will continue to do til the end of our time here.
I "profile" people all the time, even my own family and friends. It's what keeps me alive and out of trouble. I live and travel through areas where I cannot afford to be oblivious to everyone that walks up to me. It's an unforgiving world out there and there are people of all colors and backgrounds that want to inflict harm. Some may call this paranoia, I call it accepting the reality of my environment.
The department of Justice is looking for the public to provide tips to help build a case against Zimmerman. They even have an email address set up to accept them.
President Obama’s Department of Justice wants Americans’ tips on Trayvon Martin’s civil rights to build its federal case against George Zimmerman, the man acquitted of second-degree murder charges Saturday.
The DOJ is asking that all tips be sent to Sanford.florida@usdoj.gov.
Barbara Arnwine, president and executive director of the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, told the Orlando Sentinel the federal government is appealing to civil rights groups and community leaders to help build its case.
This whole thing gets more ridiculous by the day. Racism?...the only racist comment I have heard in the whole mess was Trayvon Martin on the phone with his friend referring to Martin as a "crazy ass cracka". Trayvon has the right to get his Skittles and tea and come home safe and sound. Yes he does. Does he have a right to beat on someone? Nope. Doesn't Zimmerman also have a right to not be attacked and to defend himself if he is? Yep. Who broke the law? It was Martin.
President Obama’s Department of Justice wants Americans’ tips on Trayvon Martin’s civil rights to build its federal case against George Zimmerman, the man acquitted of second-degree murder charges Saturday.
The DOJ is asking that all tips be sent to Sanford.florida@usdoj.gov.
Barbara Arnwine, president and executive director of the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, told the Orlando Sentinel the federal government is appealing to civil rights groups and community leaders to help build its case.
This whole thing gets more ridiculous by the day. Racism?...the only racist comment I have heard in the whole mess was Trayvon Martin on the phone with his friend referring to Martin as a "crazy ass cracka". Trayvon has the right to get his Skittles and tea and come home safe and sound. Yes he does. Does he have a right to beat on someone? Nope. Doesn't Zimmerman also have a right to not be attacked and to defend himself if he is? Yep. Who broke the law? It was Martin.
carbinemike said:
The unspoken agenda here is Federalism vs. States Rights. We've seen a constant push by the Federal Govt to override States Rights for many years, but they stepped on the accelerator about 5 years ago. Just look at the wide range of issues which used to be the sole responsibility of the States, but which have been over-ridden by the Feds. The Supremacy Clause and the Commerce Clause have been abused to the extreme, as has the Patriot Act and others, and if they get their way, any State laws concerning firearms will also be over-ridden.
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Re: Zimmerman, guilty or innocent
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where is a like button when you need it.... or reputation points...John A. said:
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The following should be no surprise:
Dream Defenders, the main group that has been agitating the protest movement surrounding the Trayvon Martin case, was spawned by activists employed by a who’s who of the race-hijacking radical left.
From the socialist-oriented SEIU union to ACORN to Occupy to a litany of George Soros-funded organizations, the deep connections behind Dream Defenders raises questions about the motivation of an organization that claims to be a grassroots effort working to oppose racism.
Dream Defenders has been leading Martin protests since the onset and has been credited with agitating for George Zimmerman’s arrest.
The group was behind the protests that blockaded the Sanford Police Department, demanding the police chief be fired for failing to bring charges against Zimmerman, who was acquitted of second-degree murder Saturday.
The small Community Relations Service at Eric Holder’s Justice Department facilitated a meeting between Dream Defenders and city officials that resulted in a Justice review of the police department.
Sanford police chief Bill Lee was ultimately fired. Lee has claimed he was dismissed for not arresting Zimmerman.
Dream Defenders further led protests and marches demanding Zimmerman’s arrest. Just prior to Zimmerman’s arrest in April 2012, the Justice Department reportedly phoned Dream Defenders to inform the group that Zimmerman was to be arrested within 48 hours.
The group is now organizing protests in the wake of Zimmerman’s acquittal. On Tuesday, Dream Defenders demonstrated outside the Seminole County Capitol building and other locations.
Dream Defenders bills itself as a nonviolent sustainable network of youth and student leaders fighting for social change. The group says it trains youth and students in civil disobedience, direct action and civic engagement.
The group is made up of students and recent graduates from several Florida universities and is openly backed by SEIU, the ACLU and the Soros-supported Southern Poverty Law Center
Dream Defenders, the main group that has been agitating the protest movement surrounding the Trayvon Martin case, was spawned by activists employed by a who’s who of the race-hijacking radical left.
From the socialist-oriented SEIU union to ACORN to Occupy to a litany of George Soros-funded organizations, the deep connections behind Dream Defenders raises questions about the motivation of an organization that claims to be a grassroots effort working to oppose racism.
Dream Defenders has been leading Martin protests since the onset and has been credited with agitating for George Zimmerman’s arrest.
The group was behind the protests that blockaded the Sanford Police Department, demanding the police chief be fired for failing to bring charges against Zimmerman, who was acquitted of second-degree murder Saturday.
The small Community Relations Service at Eric Holder’s Justice Department facilitated a meeting between Dream Defenders and city officials that resulted in a Justice review of the police department.
Sanford police chief Bill Lee was ultimately fired. Lee has claimed he was dismissed for not arresting Zimmerman.
Dream Defenders further led protests and marches demanding Zimmerman’s arrest. Just prior to Zimmerman’s arrest in April 2012, the Justice Department reportedly phoned Dream Defenders to inform the group that Zimmerman was to be arrested within 48 hours.
The group is now organizing protests in the wake of Zimmerman’s acquittal. On Tuesday, Dream Defenders demonstrated outside the Seminole County Capitol building and other locations.
Dream Defenders bills itself as a nonviolent sustainable network of youth and student leaders fighting for social change. The group says it trains youth and students in civil disobedience, direct action and civic engagement.
The group is made up of students and recent graduates from several Florida universities and is openly backed by SEIU, the ACLU and the Soros-supported Southern Poverty Law Center
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Man, I can't believe all this horsesh*t. They're making such a big deal out of a white man killing a black man when it's a clear case of self defense.
Hey, how come I haven't heard anything about a black youth that blew a white baby's brains out? It sure ain't a case of self defense, it's blatant murder. Why so quiet?
You know what? if the blacks want war bring it. I'm tired of their bullsh*t.
Hey, how come I haven't heard anything about a black youth that blew a white baby's brains out? It sure ain't a case of self defense, it's blatant murder. Why so quiet?
You know what? if the blacks want war bring it. I'm tired of their bullsh*t.
Whoa now, this is getting a little touchy.
When you say THEY, I want to make sure you're talking about criminals on the news and cop shows and not an entire ethnic group. Stupidity and abhorrent behavior transcend racial boundaries and not every member of a particular race shares the same political views...
When you say THEY, I want to make sure you're talking about criminals on the news and cop shows and not an entire ethnic group. Stupidity and abhorrent behavior transcend racial boundaries and not every member of a particular race shares the same political views...