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2018 Assault Weapon Ban Bill Introduced.

John A.

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Well, at least they threw in the kitchen sink with it.

Looks like just about every semiautomatic pistol, shotgun, or rifle and magazine that is known to man is on their list.
 

ripjack13

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Besides a pdf, which i cant download onto my phone, is there somewhere I can read it?
 

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Here are the named guns:
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22 ‘‘(i) All AK types, including the following:
23 ‘‘(I) AK, AK47, AK47S, AK–4,
24 AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR,
25 NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR–
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1 47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK–47,
2 VEPR, WASR–10, and WUM.
3 ‘‘(II) IZHMASH Saiga AK.
4 ‘‘(III) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
5 ‘‘(IV) Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and
6 86S.
7 ‘‘(V) Poly Technologies AK47 and
8 AKS.
9 ‘‘(ii) All AR types, including the following:
10 ‘‘(I) AR–0.
11 ‘‘(II) AR–5.
12 ‘‘(III) Alexander Arms Overmatch
13 Plus 16.
14 ‘‘(IV) Armalite M15 22LR Carbine.
15 ‘‘(V) Armalite M15–.
16 ‘‘(VI) Barrett REC7.
17 ‘‘(VII) Beretta AR–0.
18 ‘‘(VIII) Black Rain Ordnance Recon
19 Scout.
20 ‘‘(IX) Bushmaster ACR.
21 ‘‘(X) Bushmaster Carbon 15.
22 ‘‘(XI) Bushmaster MOE series.
23 ‘‘(XII) Bushmaster XM15.
24 ‘‘(XIII) Chiappa Firearms MFour ri25
fles.
1 ‘‘(XIV) Colt Match Target rifles.
2 ‘‘(XV) CORE Rifle Systems CORE15
3 rifles.
4 ‘‘(XVI) Daniel Defense M4A1 rifles.
5 ‘‘(XVII) Devil Dog Arms 15 Series ri6
fles.
7 ‘‘(XVIII) Diamondback DB15 rifles.
8 ‘‘(XIX) DoubleStar AR rifles.
9 ‘‘(XX) DPMS Tactical rifles.
10 ‘‘(XXI) DSA Inc. ZM– Carbine.
11 ‘‘(XXII) Heckler & Koch MR556.
12 ‘‘(XXIII) High Standard HSA–5 ri13
fles.
14 ‘‘(XXIV) Jesse James Nomad AR–5
15 rifle.
16 ‘‘(XXV) Knight’s Armament SR–5
17 ‘‘(XXVI) Lancer L15 rifles.
18 ‘‘(XXVII) MGI Hydra Series rifles.
19 ‘‘(XXVIII) Mossberg MMR Tactical
20 rifles.
21 ‘‘(XXIX) Noreen Firearms BN 36
22 rifle.
23 ‘‘(XXX) Olympic Arms.
24 ‘‘(XXXI) POF USA P415.
1 ‘‘(XXXII) Precision Firearms AR ri2
fles.
3 ‘‘(XXXIII) Remington R–5 rifles.
4 ‘‘(XXXIV) Rhino Arms AR rifles.
5 ‘‘(XXXV) Rock River Arms LAR–5.
6 ‘‘(XXXVI) Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles
7 and MCX rifles.
8 ‘‘(XXXVII) SKS with a detachable
9 magazine.
10 ‘‘(XXXVIII) Smith & Wesson M&P15
11 rifles.
12 ‘‘(XXXIX) Stag Arms AR rifles.
13 ‘‘(XL) Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556
14 and AR–556 rifles.
15 ‘‘(XLI) Uselton Arms Air-Lite M–
16 rifles.
17 ‘‘(XLII) Windham Weaponry AR ri18
fles.
19 ‘‘(XLIII) WMD Guns Big Beast.
20 ‘‘(XLIV) Yankee Hill Machine Com21
pany, Inc. YHM–15 rifles.
22 ‘‘(iii) Barrett M107A1.
23 ‘‘(iv) Barrett M82A1.
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1 ‘‘(vii) CETME Sporter.
2 ‘‘(viii) Daewoo K–, K–, Max 1, Max 2,
3 AR 100, and AR 110C.
4 ‘‘(ix) Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal
5 FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1
6 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000.
7 ‘‘(x) Feather Industries AT–.
8 ‘‘(xi) Galil Model AR and Model ARM.
9 ‘‘(xii) Hi-Point Carbine.
10 ‘‘(xiii) HK–1, HK–3, HK–4, HK–11 PSG–1, and HK USC.
12 ‘‘(xiv) IWI TAVOR, Galil ACE rifle.
13 ‘‘(xv) Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU–6, and
14 RFB.
15 ‘‘(xvi) SIG AMT, SIG PE–7, Sig Sauer
16 SG 550, Sig Sauer SG 551, and SIG MCX.
17 ‘‘(xvii) Springfield Armory SAR–8.
18 ‘‘(xviii) Steyr AUG.
19 ‘‘(xix) Sturm, Ruger & Co. Mini-14 Tac20
tical Rifle M–14/20CF.
21 ‘‘(xx) All Thompson rifles, including the
22 following:
23 ‘‘(I) Thompson M1SB.
24 ‘‘(II) Thompson T1100D.
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1 ‘‘(IV) Thompson T1B.
2 ‘‘(V) Thompson T1B100D.
3 ‘‘(VI) Thompson T1B50D.
4 ‘‘(VII) Thompson T1BSB.
5 ‘‘(VIII) Thompson T1–.
6 ‘‘(IX) Thompson T1D.
7 ‘‘(X) Thompson T1SB.
8 ‘‘(XI) Thompson T5.
9 ‘‘(XII) Thompson T5100D.
10 ‘‘(XIII) Thompson TM1.
11 ‘‘(XIV) Thompson TM1C.
12 ‘‘(xxi) UMAREX UZI rifle.
13 ‘‘(xxii) UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A
14 Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine.
15 ‘‘(xxiii) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78.
16 ‘‘(xxiv) Vector Arms UZI Type.
17 ‘‘(xxv) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.
18 ‘‘(xxvi) Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.
19 ‘‘(I) All of the following pistols, copies, dupli20
cates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capa21
bility of any such weapon thereof:
22 ‘‘(i) All AK–7 types, including the fol23
lowing:
24 ‘‘(I) Centurion 39 AK pistol.
25 ‘‘(II) CZ Scorpion pistol.
1 ‘‘(III) Draco AK–7 pistol.
2 ‘‘(IV) HCR AK–7 pistol.
3 ‘‘(V) IO Inc. Hellpup AK–7 pistol.
4 ‘‘(VI) Krinkov pistol.
5 ‘‘(VII) Mini Draco AK–7 pistol.
6 ‘‘(VIII) PAP M92 pistol.
7 ‘‘(IX) Yugo Krebs Krink pistol.
8 ‘‘(ii) All AR–5 types, including the fol9
lowing:
10 ‘‘(I) American Spirit AR–5 pistol.
11 ‘‘(II) Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol.
12 ‘‘(III) Chiappa Firearms M4 Pistol
13 GEN II.
14 ‘‘(IV) CORE Rifle Systems CORE15
15 Roscoe pistol.
16 ‘‘(V) Daniel Defense MK18 pistol.
17 ‘‘(VI) DoubleStar Corporation AR pis18
tol.
19 ‘‘(VII) DPMS AR–5 pistol.
20 ‘‘(VIII) Jesse James Nomad AR–5
21 pistol.
22 ‘‘(IX) Olympic Arms AR–5 pistol.
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1 ‘‘(XII) Rock River Arms LAR 15 pis2
tol.
3 ‘‘(XIII) Uselton Arms Air-Lite M–
4 pistol.
5 ‘‘(iii) Calico Liberty pistols.
6 ‘‘(iv) DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol.
7 ‘‘(v) Encom MP– and MP–5.
8 ‘‘(vi) Heckler & Koch model SP–9 pistol.
9 ‘‘(vii) Intratec AB–0, TEC–2 Scorpion,
10 TEC–9, and TEC–DC9.
11 ‘‘(viii) IWI Galil Ace pistol, UZI PRO pis12
tol.
13 ‘‘(ix) Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol.
14 ‘‘(x) The following MAC types:
15 ‘‘(I) MAC–0.
16 ‘‘(II) MAC–1.
17 ‘‘(III) Masterpiece Arms MPA A930
18 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical
19 Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol.
20 ‘‘(IV) Military Armament Corp.
21 Ingram M–11.
22 ‘‘(V) Velocity Arms VMAC.
23 ‘‘(xi) Sig Sauer P556 pistol.
24 ‘‘(xii) Sites Spectre.

3 ‘‘(I) Thompson TA510D.
4 ‘‘(II) Thompson TA5.
5 ‘‘(xiv) All UZI types, including Micro-UZI.
6 ‘‘(J) All of the following shotguns, copies, dupli7
cates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capa8
bility of any such weapon thereof:
9 ‘‘(i) DERYA Anakon MC–980, Anakon
10 SD12.
11 ‘‘(ii) Doruk Lethal shotguns.
12 ‘‘(iii) Franchi LAW–2 and SPAS 12.
13 ‘‘(iv) All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, in14
cluding the following:
15 ‘‘(I) IZHMASH Saiga 12.
16 ‘‘(II) IZHMASH Saiga 12S.
17 ‘‘(III) IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP–18 01.
19 ‘‘(IV) IZHMASH Saiga 12K.
20 ‘‘(V) IZHMASH Saiga 12K–30.
21 ‘‘(VI) IZHMASH Saiga 12K–40
22 Taktika.
23 ‘‘(v) Streetsweeper.
 

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Those were named just because they're scary looking. There's more, but maybe you'll get the jist of it.

‘‘(30) The term ‘semiautomatic pistol’ means any re4
peating pistol that—
5 ‘‘(A) utilizes a portion of the energy of a firing
6 cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and
7 chamber the next round; and
8 ‘‘(B) requires a separate pull of the trigger to
9 fire each cartridge.
10 ‘‘(31) The term ‘semiautomatic shotgun’ means any
11 repeating shotgun that—
12 ‘‘(A) utilizes a portion of the energy of a firing
13 cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and
14 chamber the next round; and
15 ‘‘(B) requires a separate pull of the trigger to
16 fire each cartridge.’’; and
17 (2) by adding at the end the following:
18 ‘‘(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’
19 means any of the following, regardless of country of manu20
facture or caliber of ammunition accepted:
21 ‘‘(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capac22
ity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the
23 following:
24 ‘‘(i) A pistol grip.
25 ‘‘(ii) A forward grip.
‘‘(iii) A folding, telescoping, or detachable
2 stock.
3 ‘‘(iv) A grenade launcher or rocket launch4
er.
5 ‘‘(v) A barrel shroud.
6 ‘‘(vi) A threaded barrel.
7 ‘‘(B) A semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed
8 magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10
9 rounds, except for an attached tubular device de10
signed to accept, and capable of operating only with,
11 .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.
12 ‘‘(C) Any part, combination of parts, compo13
nent, device, attachment, or accessory that is de14
signed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of
15 a semiautomatic rifle but not convert the semiauto16
matic rifle into a machinegun.
17 ‘‘(D) A semiautomatic pistol that has the ca18
pacity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of
19 the following:
20 ‘‘(i) A threaded barrel.
21 ‘‘(ii) A second pistol grip.
22 ‘‘(iii) A barrel shroud.
23 ‘‘(iv) The capacity to accept a detachable
24 magazine at some location outside of the pistol
25 grip.
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1 ‘‘(v) A semiautomatic version of an auto2
matic firearm.
3 ‘‘(E) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed maga4
zine that has the capacity to accept more than 10
5 rounds.
6 ‘‘(F) A semiautomatic shotgun that has any 1
7 of the following:
8 ‘‘(i) A folding, telescoping, or detachable
9 stock.
10 ‘‘(ii) A pistol grip.
11 ‘‘(iii) A fixed magazine with the capacity to
12 accept more than 5 rounds.
13 ‘‘(iv) The ability to accept a detachable
14 magazine.
15 ‘‘(v) A forward grip.
16 ‘‘(vi) A grenade launcher or rocket launch17
er.
18 ‘‘(G) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

‘‘(K) All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms,


‘‘(L) Any combination of parts from which a
4 firearm described in subparagraphs (A) through (K)
5 can be assembled.
6 ‘‘(M) The frame or receiver of a rifle or shot7
gun
The term ‘large capacity ammunition feeding
10 device’—

‘‘(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip,
12 or similar device, including any such device joined or
13 coupled with another in any manner,

‘‘(38) The term ‘barrel shroud’—


‘‘(42) The term ‘forward grip’



‘‘(43) The term ‘rocket’ means any simple or complex
24 tubelike device containing combustibles that on being ig25
nited liberate gases whose action propels the tube through
1 the air and has a propellant charge of not more than 4
2 ounces.
3 ‘‘(44) The term ‘grenade launcher or rocket launcher’
4 means an attachment for use on a firearm that is designed
5 to propel a grenade, rocket, or other similar destructive
6 device.

‘‘(47) The term ‘threaded barrel’ means a feature or
15 characteristic that is designed in such a manner to allow
16 for the attachment of a device such as a firearm silencer
17 or a flash suppressor.

shall not apply to—
8 ‘‘(A) the importation for, manufacture for, sale
9 to, transfer to, or possession by the United States
10 or a department or agency of the United States or
11 a State or a department, agency, or political subdivi12
sion of a State, or a sale or transfer to or possession
13 by a qualified law enforcement officer employed by
14 the United States or a department or agency

SECURE STORAGE OR SAFETY DEVICE RE20
QUIREMENT



d) SEIZURE AND FORFEITURE OF LARGE CAPACITY
10 AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES
 

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SEC. 8. SEVERABILITY.

If any provision of this Act, an amendment made by this Act, or the application of such provision or amendment to any person or circumstance is held to be unconstitutional, the remainder of this Act, the amendments made by this Act, and the application of such provision or amendment to any person or circumstance shall not be affected thereby.

so in other words, they know there will be parts (should be the whole thing) found to be unconstitutional....
 

meanstreak

.30-06
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Hmmm, just in time for the mid term elections. It's time to start calling congressional members of both parties if you haven't already. Now they have a two pronged attack as well. Attack the NRA and try to stigmatize anyone from taking a donation from them as well.

Again, the left, and they are the ones pushing this, cannot hold the bad guys accountable. But then again, it is my belief if none of these school shootings had occurred they would still be after our guns, just a bit more subtle about it. They see an opportunity here to pray on a tragedy for their own agenda. They do not want the citizenry to object to anything they want to do.
 

John A.

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I remember a few years ago, they started putting that "if anything is found unconstitutional" bs stuff in many of their laws so the entire bill isn't overturned and anyone suing the government, common citizens would have to pick it apart piece by piece to stop it.

That's as slimey as it gets from a citizens standpoint. Not much different than a Royal Decree from days of old.

Like it or not, the time is getting closer boys. Piece by piece. Little by little. Bite by bite.

The pressure may not even hold off another generation. They've already invested heavily in this younger generation.

And it's working.

And sadly, we continue to allow it.
 

carbinemike

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In some ways the timing could not be worse for the democrats and the mid term elections. Gun control has always been an election killer for them. It killed Bill Clinton in the mid terms. It helped sink Al Gore and Hillary had it as a prominent part of her platform.

Hmmm, just in time for the mid term elections. It's time to start calling congressional members of both parties if you haven't already. Now they have a two pronged attack as well. Attack the NRA and try to stigmatize anyone from taking a donation from them as well.

Again, the left, and they are the ones pushing this, cannot hold the bad guys accountable. But then again, it is my belief if none of these school shootings had occurred they would still be after our guns, just a bit more subtle about it. They see an opportunity here to pray on a tragedy for their own agenda. They do not want the citizenry to object to anything they want to do.
I don't know if you ever saw this but it was leaked years ago...the anti gun playbook...http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/748675/gun-violencemessaging-guide-pdf-1.pdf
 

carbinemike

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Like it or not, the time is getting closer boys. Piece by piece. Little by little. Bite by bite.

The pressure may not even hold off another generation. They've already invested heavily in this younger generation.

And it's working.

And sadly, we continue to allow it.

I completely agree that it's getting closer the only oddity I have seen recently have been a few articles from liberal rags lamenting that the current millennial generation is more liberal than their elders on social issues studies are showing they aren't more anti gun. Maybe it's the media pumping them up.
 

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The fallout from something this drastic would have many devastating social repercussions. Some of which make me shudder at the thought.

But one perspective, if this were to pass...can you imagine the damage to your economy? The effects would be immediate and in some cases long lasting.

That list sure looks like an awful lot of lost jobs to me...and people who are out of work have drastically reduced buying power, etc on down the line it goes. Foreclosures, bankruptcies....you name it.
 

meanstreak

.30-06
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Thanks Mike. I had no not seen that but just now took the time to read through it. It's an action plan without trying to look like one. It is not subtle at all actually. Take away what they call assault rifles, and then the next move will be to take away anything over a .22lr. The fight is never ending and they are relentless.

They , the left, hates the NRA. It's ironic, they hate the donations to candidates from the NRA, yet have no problem with those same folks giving hundreds of millions of tax dollars to planned parenthood to kill future children.
 

John A.

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I have came to the conclusion that the left and democrats in general really hate children.

Whatever they can't kill in the womb through planned parenthood, they'll allow schools and playgrounds to be undefended so other people can kill them.

And those children that actually make it to adulthood after going through liberal public education, they make sure to ask for their vote. Where they'll get screwed out of even more rights and protections.
 

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Maybe instead of getting rid of guns we get rid if the criminal empowerment zones where all these mass shootings take place.
 

meanstreak

.30-06
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The thought occurred to me this morning, what was that Cruz fella thinking as he walked towards the school ? He certainly was not doing what a sane person does. Therein lies the problem I think. He could have had explosives in his back pack. He could have had a bomb strapped to his body, or even some sort of poison. He could have set fire to the school. The gun was not the problem here. The problem was in his mind and his ability to walk into a crowded school with a weapon undeterred.

For the left this is another excuse to take away guns, and I honestly think they will not stop at semi automatic rifles. I can't bring myself to say "assault rifles" since I am fairly certain the military would not go into battle these days without fully automatic weapons.

The system appears to have failed at several levels in this instance. I understand people make mistakes. The mistakes need to be studied and hopefully rectified. It's a tough question, no doubt about it. There will always be people that have bad intentions, unless of course we just keep everyone drugged to the brink of being comatose.

When you think about it, sneaking into a school with two handguns and extra magazines would be much easier. My thoughts are still prevent someone with bad intentions from getting into the school in the first place.

Well, after all of that I have not said anything new, nor have I come up with a solution. I'm sure there are smarter folks than me putting a lot of thought into these problems. I just wish some of them were not politicians trying to make points.
 

John A.

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Thank you meanstreak.

You have much more successfully put into words what I have wanted to say going back years.
 
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