715T Flash Hiders/Suppressor/Barrel Threading
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Re: fake suppressor home made
Basically,
You need to be able to prove that whatever you make IN ABSOLUTELY NO QUANTIFIABLE WAY reduces the audible output of your firearm. Otherwise, you've made an actual suppressor and are in violation of federal law.
It's just not worth risking a felony charge when you can pick up a pre-fab'd fake can for as low as $30...
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Rkillion said:
Basically,
You need to be able to prove that whatever you make IN ABSOLUTELY NO QUANTIFIABLE WAY reduces the audible output of your firearm. Otherwise, you've made an actual suppressor and are in violation of federal law.
It's just not worth risking a felony charge when you can pick up a pre-fab'd fake can for as low as $30...
Tactical Innovations: FAKE SUPPRESSORS
Companies like this have done their homework and can support their findings with applicable research in court, should the need arise. If you make one on your own, you're on your own...
Itsricmo
.30-06
Re: fake suppressor home made
I agree with LES but one way you could do it is make it so that your muzzle is at the end of the "fake suppressor" versus attaching the device to the front of the muzzle. I would still just go with what LES posted to play it safe and keep yourself out of Fed Pen
LAZY EYED SNIPER said:
I agree with LES but one way you could do it is make it so that your muzzle is at the end of the "fake suppressor" versus attaching the device to the front of the muzzle. I would still just go with what LES posted to play it safe and keep yourself out of Fed Pen
Re: Mossberg 715T Flash Hiders/Barrel Threading
The tension on the barrel/receiver should be much greater than the tension on the flash hider. As long as the barrel is supported you should be goor to go. A barrel block for the vise would be ideal, but I definitely wouldn't clamp the bare barrel in the vise...
The tension on the barrel/receiver should be much greater than the tension on the flash hider. As long as the barrel is supported you should be goor to go. A barrel block for the vise would be ideal, but I definitely wouldn't clamp the bare barrel in the vise...
Re: Mossberg 715T Flash Hiders/Barrel Threading
Ok, had an issue, the barrel came loose from the receiver... I guess mine is solid. Oh well going to find a mil style suppressor. The kind with the ring that fits over the birdcage.
But I got lucky and I was able to put the barrel back into place.
Ok, had an issue, the barrel came loose from the receiver... I guess mine is solid. Oh well going to find a mil style suppressor. The kind with the ring that fits over the birdcage.
But I got lucky and I was able to put the barrel back into place.
Re: Mossberg 715T Flash Hiders/Barrel Threading
WOW, that sucker is on there...
WOW, that sucker is on there...
Re: Mossberg 715T Flash Hiders/Barrel Threading
Yes it is...
As I write this I am out in my field shooting and I have noticed one thing. As the round exits the barell it scrapes the compensator at the end. I think a good solution is to bore it out a bit, make it more open face like an actual A2 compensator. What kind of bit should I use? I don't think carbide would even handle it.
Yes it is...
As I write this I am out in my field shooting and I have noticed one thing. As the round exits the barell it scrapes the compensator at the end. I think a good solution is to bore it out a bit, make it more open face like an actual A2 compensator. What kind of bit should I use? I don't think carbide would even handle it.
SWATmedic1
Copper BB
Re: fake suppressor home made
Question: can I put a suppressor on a brand new flat top out of the box? Or does it need modification? And if it does need modification, what does it need? Thanks for any help!
Question: can I put a suppressor on a brand new flat top out of the box? Or does it need modification? And if it does need modification, what does it need? Thanks for any help!
Itsricmo
.30-06
Re: fake suppressor home made
Welcome to the Forums, SWAT! Presuming you have followed all Legal Process' in obtaining and owning a suppressor, I believe you have to thread the barrel of the flat-top and even at that, I don't know the diameter of the barrel to know if it is thread-able.
There may be something over in the 715t sub-forum to help you out:
http://mossbergowners.com/viewforum.php?f=88
SWATmedic1 said:
Welcome to the Forums, SWAT! Presuming you have followed all Legal Process' in obtaining and owning a suppressor, I believe you have to thread the barrel of the flat-top and even at that, I don't know the diameter of the barrel to know if it is thread-able.
There may be something over in the 715t sub-forum to help you out:
http://mossbergowners.com/viewforum.php?f=88
Re: fake suppressor home made
Lazy Eye sniper gave good advice and the correct and proper wording of the law as well. It would be much more simple and safer to buy a pre-fabbed fake silencer.
Also, if you don't know how to attach it to the barrel, I would question how you're going to make any sort of muzzle device anyway.
I'm not trying to come across as smug, but maybe you should hold off on the fake silencer for now.
1. The answer to your first question is probably if it has a threaded barrel and whether the A2 flash hider is permanently attached or not.
2. The answer to your second question is maybe, and it depends on the first answer
3. The answer to your third question (depending on the threading) may not may not be the same threading as any silencer known to man.
Odds are if they are using standard A2 flash hiders that it's the correct and universally accepted thread pitch for 22LR, but I don't know anyone that has put a silencer on one, so I would think that it would be alright, but I won't bet the farm on it unless I knew about the barrel threading/specs first.
Rkillion said:
Lazy Eye sniper gave good advice and the correct and proper wording of the law as well. It would be much more simple and safer to buy a pre-fabbed fake silencer.
Also, if you don't know how to attach it to the barrel, I would question how you're going to make any sort of muzzle device anyway.
I'm not trying to come across as smug, but maybe you should hold off on the fake silencer for now.
SWATmedic1 said:
1. The answer to your first question is probably if it has a threaded barrel and whether the A2 flash hider is permanently attached or not.
2. The answer to your second question is maybe, and it depends on the first answer
3. The answer to your third question (depending on the threading) may not may not be the same threading as any silencer known to man.
Odds are if they are using standard A2 flash hiders that it's the correct and universally accepted thread pitch for 22LR, but I don't know anyone that has put a silencer on one, so I would think that it would be alright, but I won't bet the farm on it unless I knew about the barrel threading/specs first.
Re: fake suppressor home made
The reason I'm having an issue is the compensator is fixed, not threaded. And I don't want to take it off and get it threaded,i don't have those tools, and I'm not a fan of sending my firearms off. Idk why, I'm just not. I'm thinking about making a slip over catch that will thread to the outside of the FS, and slide into a notch on the compensator. The same way the Army has their suppressors set up.
John A. said:
The reason I'm having an issue is the compensator is fixed, not threaded. And I don't want to take it off and get it threaded,i don't have those tools, and I'm not a fan of sending my firearms off. Idk why, I'm just not. I'm thinking about making a slip over catch that will thread to the outside of the FS, and slide into a notch on the compensator. The same way the Army has their suppressors set up.
Re: fake suppressor home made
My bet is threaded underneath but is perm. attached per ATF reg's if it is fixed.
I'm unsure where you could get a mount like you're talking about for a fake silencer.
Rkillion said:
My bet is threaded underneath but is perm. attached per ATF reg's if it is fixed.
I'm unsure where you could get a mount like you're talking about for a fake silencer.
Re: Mossberg 715T Flash Hiders/Barrel Threading
Not sure on that one.
I'll have to defer the bit question to someone with experience...
Not sure on that one.
I'll have to defer the bit question to someone with experience...
SWATmedic1
Copper BB
Re: fake suppressor home made
First, Thank you all for the replies and tips. I didnt realize that I forgot to add "fake suppressor" to the thread. I just really want the look. I just got my flat top in the mail a few days ago and added a few accessories to get me going. Shot 200 rounds through it today and Im highly impressed!!! Thanks again and once I can get some good pictures, I will add some!
First, Thank you all for the replies and tips. I didnt realize that I forgot to add "fake suppressor" to the thread. I just really want the look. I just got my flat top in the mail a few days ago and added a few accessories to get me going. Shot 200 rounds through it today and Im highly impressed!!! Thanks again and once I can get some good pictures, I will add some!
Re: fake suppressor home made
It's not so much that you did or didn't add the word fake to the thread, but the ATF see's things through a specific set of eyes.
There have been people arrested over the years for "intent" only because they had some specific piece, or part or whatever, and I don't like seeing people getting mixed up in something they never intended to happen.
The law basically says "any part" that can be made to silence the shot of a weapon is a silencer, and people have been prosecuted for having a roll of tape and plastic pop bottle before, so it's really a grey area to be in.
fake silencers are completely legal,but how it is made/designed would be the determining factor of whether an overzealous agent could try to get that big promotion or not.
SWATmedic1 said:
It's not so much that you did or didn't add the word fake to the thread, but the ATF see's things through a specific set of eyes.
There have been people arrested over the years for "intent" only because they had some specific piece, or part or whatever, and I don't like seeing people getting mixed up in something they never intended to happen.
The law basically says "any part" that can be made to silence the shot of a weapon is a silencer, and people have been prosecuted for having a roll of tape and plastic pop bottle before, so it's really a grey area to be in.
fake silencers are completely legal,but how it is made/designed would be the determining factor of whether an overzealous agent could try to get that big promotion or not.
LuckieSlevin
Copper BB
Re: 715 t .22 LR Flash Suppressor Removal
Did you ever get it removed? Thanks.
Did you ever get it removed? Thanks.