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Has anyone actually put a Maverick 88 Trigger Group in a 590 Shockwave?

Funny, I don’t care for them either. I’ve never shot enough that barrel heat penetrated my gloves. I’m only looking to grasp the whole end of the gun to hopefully control the kick back better. In my case, I guess a “heat shield “ is a misnomer. But “tube gripping apparatus “ seemed kinda, uh, pornhub-ish…lol
 
OP. Have you discussed this with your wife? I’m married like you. If I asked my wife what is the best “last resort” firearm for her I can’t say for certain ( because I’ve never asked her) but I also can’t see a shockwave being in the top 10.
She already has a derringer. Get her a 45LC/410 shooting beastie from Bond Arms and keep the Mossy for yourself.
 
James Fischer said:
Thanks for the helpful advice in dealing with people Ernst, but I thought I did describe in detail what my goal was. I will add more detail, as so far, I've gotten nothing but flak and insults, with only ONE account of swapping, answering my purely technical question.

I have a 5' 6" 118 lb wife. Covid has occasionally left her alone at our country place when I have been forced to travel, and it looks like we are not going back to the City anytime soon. She expressed concern, so I bought her a Shockwave, as it was the smallest and lightest legal Not-A-Shotgun one can find, and it was a Mossberg, not a "Freedom Group / Cerberus Capital Management" piss-poor QA product.

But... recoil. So, looking at options, the Knoxx Breachers Grip Gen III seemed best.
But, it makes the safety.... awkward, and my practice for a solid 50+ years of shooting shotguns has always been to consistently make the sounds "Click, Boom, Rack, Rack" in that precise order, so the safety stays on until weapon is being aimed at target.
So.... move the safety.
And, lo and behold, the Maverick 88 puts the safety on the trigger group exactly where it "should be" for the Knoxx grip.

Do I care about resale? No! The old trigger group can slide back in any time for resale, just as the birds-head grip can bolt back on.
Do I care about warranty? No! See above, the gun can go back to "factory stock" in 10 minutes, as I can disassemble and clean a Mossberg in my sleep by now.
Do I care about "court"? No! If the gun is ever used, there will be a dead person on the floor, and a wife who fired only because she was unable to run away. We are not about to use a gun to protect "stuff".
Do I care about the "hole" where the tang safety went? No! I can 3D-print a smooth flush black cover plate to fill the depression, and put a nut and washer inside the receiver to keep it in place. Again, the stock safety can bolt back in any time.
Do I care about staying short AND legal? Yes! Why else would I pay the premium for a Shockwave, when I could have just started out with a far less expensive, and "otherwise identical" Maverick?

So, that was my question - I'd rather not spend yet another $30 or so on a Maverick Trigger group, and I figured that I couldn't be the first to come to the obvious conclusion that a Shockwave might need some recoil reduction, or the only guy to have a shawty who is a shorty.

I'm not a cheapskate here, I've already added the usual fittings one wants in a "home defense" weapon: Streamlight TL Racker, Crimson Trace LS-250G green saddle laser, composite heat shield, and I even drilled and tapped the heat shield to move the bead onto the heat shield "just because". Oh yeah, and the Delrin follower... why? Because a physicist like me looks at a stamped sheet-metal component with a spring behind it, and thinks "that sucks". I've had Delrin followers since they were first offered in my other Mossberg pump, feels much nicer.

What is my wife going to actually DO? She'll shoot at ground targets with this every other month or so to keep skilled, out at the Hudson Farm complex in NJ, and maybe, just maybe, she'll do some skeet shooting now and again with break-open double-barreled "real shotguns", either with me, or one of the all-ladies gangs that have formed out there. But over the short term, or if she is not so social about shooting, recoil is the thing that will limit her willingness to practice shooting.

But the shockwave is a single-purpose weapon, and will only be used under a very stressful scenario when lots of s**t has unexpectedly gone lateral, so lots of practice will be needed, and every possible "ease of use" factor needs to be addressed.

I do hope this helps the far more experienced and far wiser subscribers to this interwebnet thingy who were so helpful with their many suggestions and comments to understand exactly where I am coming from.
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Reduced recoil is the logic behind Shockwaves models in 20 gauge and 410.
It’s also the driving factor for ‘shortie’ rounds and low recoil rounds.
There is no way I would ever consider such radical changes on a gun for my wife, and then set her up for failure legally for a SD shoot.
I have changed parts for years in my guns, but always within the parameters of quality aftermarket parts that are well engineered and very safe.
Maybe you should have considered finding a gun that meet your wife’s needs prior to purchase.
 
nitesite said:
I have never really understood heat shields on civilian shotguns.

Or for that matter, heat shields on military/police shotguns used after the cessation of WWII.

Unless someone is a re-enactor.
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Additional weight, parts, and bling does not exist on any of my guns. They need to be accurate and reliable - they don’t need to look like party favors.
 
James Fischer said:
Well, a wife who burns her hand on a hot barrel is an unhappy wife. Nuff said!
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Then tell her to keep her hand off the barrel.
Things like heat shields are bulky, add weight and complexity, were not part of the original gun and are not needed IMHO.
 
This thread seems to have gravitated from a discussion of trigger groups to heat sheilds.

Historically, shotguns with heat shields are a product of the WWII trench gun which had about a 20 inch bayonet so when the trenches were overrun the soilders use the heat shield to grip the barrel and thrust the bayonet into the enemy. During Vietnam there were still some of these WWII guns being used in the field but mostly without bayonets.

The advent of the Shockwave with it's fore end grip strap had two purposes. First, to prevent anyone from getiing their hand blown off as they racked the slide and at the same time pulled the trigger and secondly, if you're using the strap as it's designed it's pretty hard to touch the hot barrel. And speaking of hot barrels I serious doubt in a HD situation you're ever going to expend enough ammo to significantly heat up the barrel.

There an old saying that in a life or death situation when your heart rate is off scale high, your shorts are full of shit, that you're not going to even notice the gun's recoil or noise. In reality, most folks get tunnel vision can't even remember how many shells they've fired.

To each their own but I really wonder about the utility of a heat shield on a Shockwave or it's worth several other weapons.

Maybe it's looks vice functionality?

Regards
 
Just an added thought. If anyone is really worried about burned hands get yourself a pair of Nomex Flight Gloves as pictured below. They are both fire resistent and light weight. Use then for over two decades in the military and they work well. We did cut the trigger finger cover off. The original ones are still made and available for around $20.

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