how much size difference is there between a 12 and a 20g slide tube?View attachment 26784First and foremost welcome to the forum.
GG&G makes an excellent light mount for a 20 ga Shockwave. The short rail allows you to mount many different lights.
The Streamlight TLR-1 is used by many but there are other good choices depending on how you plan to use the weapon.
Shockwaves sure do sell well.
Ernst- where can I find more information on the push/pull techniques you mentioned?Think there are two reasons:
The Shockwave and the Remington "firearm" designation precludes folks from having to deal with SBS and AOW paperwork, government oversight and the cost of a "Mother May I" permission slip.
The more practical reason is the Shockwave's utility. Once you've mastered the aimed, push/pull techniques it becomes a go anywhere firearm for carrying in an ATV, a Jeep or truck, on a tractor or simple a easy to carry woods work gun. Plus IMO it's overall length makes it an ideal in home defense weapon which can be easily used to clear room and transition from strong hand to weak hand firing.
It definitely fills a nitch market and I think has become a firearm that people either love or hate. Atleast we don't have to deal with the pistol caliber wars!!!!!
Ernst- where can I find more information on the push/pull techniques you mentioned?
Thank you for taking the time to share your experience Ernst. And Spock I apologize for hijacking your thread. I too watched the Hickok videos when I first purchased a Shockwave. I’ve got a Walmart case of bird shot to start with and a lot of inexpensive buck shot from OpticsPlanet to perfect technique before I start down the road of choosing a proper self-defense round like the Winchester Defender I asked about previously. I too am following the question about mounting a light! Thank you again. This is a great forum.JDK, I can only provide some background based on my initial experience and the personal shooting techniques I developed. Others can certainly chime in on their experiences.
I purchased a Shockwave within the first couple of weeks when they came out and obviously the first noticable improvement was the bird's head. As compared to the older pistol grip shotguns it really allowed a smooth transfer of recoil energy down your entire arm vice trying to break your wrist. No big surprise here.
The natural tendency when you take the first shot or two was to see how much recoil and upper barrel rise you might have. So the first few shots were from the "hip" and like others have reported there was a tendency to shot high and to the left (right hand shooter). After a few shots it was time to see if you could actually use the front bead and aim a shot. Obviously the initial concern while shooting an aimed shot was would the firearm actually recoil backwards and hit you in the mouth.
My initial technique was to push the forearm away from me to compensate for the anticipated recoil while normally holding the bird's head. And while that worked well from a recoil point of view there was still a tendency to shoot high and to the left because of the barrel raise. After a few more shots I found that by pushing the forearm forward and equally pulling the bird's head rearward the firearm was actually very balanced to shooting, the firearm was easy to control and after a couple of boxes of target shell I could easily and consistently hit the point of aim.
I say it took 3-4 boxes of 7 1/2 target shells to be totally comfortable with this technique. Since then I've shot a bunch of 00 buckshot and because of where I live and the preditors I deal with (bears and cougars) I actually carry Brenneke Black Magic 3 inch magnums 1 3/8 oz slugs along with 00 buck. Unless you really need them I don't recommend shooting these magnum slugs. They are a handful but with practice you can shoot an aimed shot using the push-pull technique. And I'm not a spring chicken, seven plus decades old.
JDK, I hope this addresses your question. Again these are my experiences. Back in the early Shockwave days guys were basically experimenting with these new firearms. I think the first guy everyone later saw shooting a Shockwave on the internet was Hickhock 45. He has a couple of videos which you can pull up. There was another guy early on that demostrated shooting clays with a Shockwave. There's a video link back in the Shockwave section of the forum.
As I said earlier it's a nitch firearm but an excellent carry and work gun.
I don’t know how much my laser saddle lights up in pitch darkness, because as I mentioned, my small house is never dark inside and I have a city street light in my front yard in addition to a half dozen plus exterior security lights with motion detectors. If they kick in my doors it won’t be in the dark. And everyone I welcome inside has a key..lol my bracket is just some odds and ends that I cobbled together. The Shockwave is just a friction fit in the bits,( a piece of unistrut, 2 unused Craftsman sockets welded to it and a squished pipe clamp for the grip), no lifting, pulling or negotiation. I dunked it in plastidip to keep it from getting marred. Grab the grip and it’s in your hand..View attachment 26815Ok, since you all want to veer off topic here, I'm going to take my Shockwave and go home . . . just kidding. I am learning a lot reading all of the back and forth opinions and side information.
So here's the poop, I got the Shockwave primarily for home self defense, because as opposed to a handgun, my wife is actually willing to learn to handle this firearm. So my thought process was I would mount a light to improve our ability see an intruder coming down the hall at night, and also hopefully temporarily blind the intruder in the process as well. Whether that makes a great deal of sense or not other than in my noggin I don't know, but I'm open to alternative suggestions. By the way, my Shockwave came equipped with the Crimson Trace Laser Saddle, so I suppose if my home nighttime ambient lighting was sufficient, I may not need the additional mounted light at all, yes?
Rodburner, what kind of quick draw bracket are you using?