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Reid: gun vote this Thursday

John A.

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I’m moving forward to break the Republican filibuster. On Thurs, Senate will begin voting on background checks + other gun safety measures.

Last chance to call your elected reps and DEMAND they not infringe our 2A rights.

Now is not the time for being a wimp.

It is time to contact your elected reps and be vocal and tell them to not infringe the 2A.

Don't waste your time writing letters, now is the time to light up the phones and be heard or stay silent forever more.

Both of my elected reps have already signed on to filibuster and have historically voted progun. So, I'm going to make some long distance calls tomorrow to other senators that I believe will not vote 2A.

Whether they like it or not, they answer to me as much as one of their immediate constituents when it comes to infringing my rights, they're going to hear from me about it.
 

GunnyGene

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While Harry Reid continues to flog this gun control background checks, etc., it seems that the LEO around the country thinks it's a total waste of time. This from Breitbart:

In a poll conducted by PoliceOne, a majority of law enforcement personnel said universal background checks, "assault weapons" bans, and "high capacity" magazine bans do not make police safer and will not lower violent crime. Armed citizens, on the other hand, do make a positive difference.

In the poll of 15,000 law enforcement professionals, 71% of respondents said an "assault weapons" ban would have zero impact on violent crime. Of those surveyed, 95.7% said the same of a "high capacity" magazine ban, and 79.7% said the same in response to a question on universal background checks.

Over 90% of these law enforcement professionals said "mandatory sentences with no plea bargains" for those who use a gun in perpetrating a crime would reduce violent crime.

When asked if they supported concealed carry laws for citizens without a felony in their past, 91.3% of respondents answered "yes" on "without question and without further restrictions."

Additionally, 80% of these law enforcement professionals also agreed that casualties at Sandy Hook Elementary would "have likely been reduced" if "legally-armed citizens" had been in the school.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... izens-Will

Link to PoliceOne: http://www.policeone.com/Gun-Legislatio ... -violence/
 

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I couldn't agree more John...get on the phone folks!!!
 

tomservo92

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My two Senators (Cruz and Cornyn) are lined up to oppose. It does concern me that Cornyn won't join Cruz on the filibuster.


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GunnyGene

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CNN is reporting that a "Compromise" has been reached between some Republican Senators and Democrats on the Reids bill.

Compromising the 2nd is not compromise. It's surrender. :x
 

MikeD

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just received this alert from GOA:

GOA said:
Sellout is worse than the Feinstein gun ban!
Urgent action required. It is urgent that every gun owner call their Senators today and demand that they oppose the “See a Shrink, Lose your Guns” sell-out bill that is being authored by Senators Pat Toomey (R) and Joe Manchin (D) - but which also has Chuck Schumer’s fingerprints all over it. Call immediately at 202-224-3121.

See a Shrink, Lose your Guns. The anti-gun "ranters" have spent the last week telling us that Republican Senators can’t filibuster Harry Reid’s gun control bill; that they can’t cut off debate to a bill they haven’t seen yet. “Let the bill come up,” they say. “We need to see the bill” before Senators can vote against cloture to proceed to it.

Well, we’ve seen the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer sell-out, and it’s worse than the Feinstein gun ban, which will reportedly be tied to it and offered simultaneously in a Senate procedure known as an “amendment tree.”

Toomey and Manchin will claim that their bill only covers “gun show sales” and Internet sales. But if you’ve ever talked about your gun and /or let it be known you’d like to sell or buy a gun on the Internet, this language covers you. If you advertise your gun in the church bulletin and the bulletin is put on the Internet, you’re covered.

The only exemption is for sales that are sold exclusively by word of mouth. The increased number of background checks would likely exacerbate the system breakdowns (inherent to NICS) which have shut down gun shows over and over again. It would mean that Americans who were illegally denied firearms because their names were similar to other people's would effectively be barred from owning a gun. (We would never tolerate such delays for voting rights or other freedoms that we are guaranteed.)

And for those Republicans who think they’re going to be able to offer their useless amendments, guess what? Reid is reportedly going to use a procedure to block out all amendments (called an “amendment tree”). And there are plenty of Senators standing in line to make sure that the Senate doesn’t give “unanimous consent” to let those Republicans offer their amendments.

So if you live in a rural area, you’re effectively barred from selling or buying a gun - or it at least becomes very, very difficult.

Incidentally, the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer “national registry” language is full of holes. There will be a national gun registry as a result of this sell-out.

But that’s not the worst part. Under an amendment in the bill to HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act), you could have your guns taken away because your private shrink thinks you’re “dangerous” and could send your name directly to the FBI Instant Check system.

Did you think it was terrible that 150,000 military veterans had been added into the NICS system because they’d seen a VA shrink about their PTSD? Well guess what? Now it’s going to happen to the rest of the population ... by the millions!

And the next step, of course, will be to begin to sue psychiatrists that don’t send every single patient’s name to the Instant Check system, and to make sure that their lives are ruined if they don’t send a patient to NICS and anything goes wrong.

The bottom line: “See a shrink; lose your guns.”

All of this will reportedly be on an amendment tree with the Feinstein gun ban and magazine bans.

Repeal of gun owner protections. In addition, Toomey no doubt unintentionally agreed to repeal one of the most important protections for gun owners that was included in the 1986 McClure-Volkmer Act - the provision that would allow you to take an unloaded, locked-up gun through states like New York without being stopped. Under a new subsection (c), the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer bill would require you to “demonstrate” to the satisfaction of New York police where you were coming from and where you are going to. And, if you don’t do that to their satisfaction, they can arrest you.

Please keep in mind, nothing in this bill would have stopped Newtown dirtbag from killing his mother and taking the firearms that she owned and perpetrating the horrible crimes that he committed.

Nothing is this bill would actually make children safer at schools. There is nothing that will actually keep bad guys from stealing or illegally acquiring guns, but there’s plenty that will threaten our gun rights!

ACTION: Click here to contact your two senators immediately. Tell them the “see a shrink; lose your guns” sellout is even worse than the Feinstein gun ban which will reportedly be on the same amendment tree with it. Distribute this alert far and wide.

Time is short, so if you call - at 202-224-3121 - you may click here to see the pre-written letter and use the contents to help direct your comments.
 

carbinemike

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I can't believe Toomey turned on us. I expected it from Bob Casey, our other PA senator. But Toomey???? We already have background checks that turn up people that can't have guns. That is already a crime and they don't enforce it.

With a Senate gun-control showdown looming, Sens. Joe Manchin and Pat Toomey have reached a deal on background checks for firearm purchases, NBC News reported Wednesday morning.

Mr. Manchin, West Virginia Democrat, and Mr. Toomey, Pennsylvania Republican, both have “A” ratings from the National Rifle Association, potentially giving the the deal the kind of political weight needed to achieve a bipartisan vote capable of overcoming a filibuster.

The details of the package aren’t yet clear and will be announced later on Wednesday, according to NBC.

The agreement comes as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid sets a Senate vote on gun-control measures for Thursday. It will be first such vote in either chamber of Congress since the December massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

While Mr. Toomey, a first-term senator and former Club For Growth president, has reached across the aisle on guns, other Republicans are plotting a different course. A number of senators, including Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, may filibuster any gun-control measures. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has also indicated he may be join the filibuster.

Democrats and some Republicans oppose such a strategy.

“I think it’s disgraceful for anyone to say we’re going to filibuster a gun bill,” Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, New York Democrat, said during an appearance on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Wednesday morning.

At least nine Republican senators have signaled they’ll vote with Democrats to bring the bill to the floor, though it’s unclear whether all Democrats will support the package.
 

GunnyGene

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The talking heads keep spewing out this supposed "90% of Americans/gun owners" are in favor of expanded/universal background checks.

I'm proud to be one of the 10% who understand it would do zero,nada, zip to stop the bad guys, and would be an infringement of Constitutional rights, give even more power over us to the Federal Bureaucrats, lay the ground work for future infringements, and create an expanded black market; not to mention the costs of administering such a expansion would be money down the drain.
 

carbinemike

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Yes, they keep throwing that 90% support number around. The NRA debunked that but that doesn't matter when you can lie and the media will back you up. They also make me sick trotting out the families of the Newtown shooting. I wish anyone, the families, media or politician would explain to me how the proposed law would have prevented the Newtown tragedy.
 

carbinemike

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I looked it up and came up with 80,000 caught falsifying information in 2010 with 44 being prosecuted. So if checks are increased we can have 100,000 with 60 being prosecuted?

Also, I keep hearing about internet sales. Are there any states that permit direct sales from the internet? Any that I buy in PA have to be shipped to an FFL which does a check. I can't even have a gun that I own and sent back for a repair be sent directly to me. It also goes to an FFL although no check is done to give it back to me.
 

GunnyGene

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And they're calling this steaming pile of manure "The Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act"!

Since when does the 2A need a law to protect it?! And it won't do a damn thing for Public Safety! This is just lipstick. A blatant appeal to useful idiots. :x
 
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