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SHUTDOWN!

And in yet another example of Obama's "leadership", he's threatening Social Security payments. Way to go asshole; piss off even more people with guns.

Early Thursday morning, Potomac Research Group analyst Greg Valliere predicted that if the debt-ceiling deadline grew closer, President Barack Obama would play his "trump card" in the debate. He would remind seniors that if Congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling, seniors wouldn't get their Social Security checks.

"GOP strategists like Karl Rove surely know that it's just a matter of time before President Obama throws a game-changer — warning senior citizens that their Social Security checks won't be mailed because of John Boehner," Valliere wrote in a note to clients.

A few hours later, Obama did just that during a speech at M. Luis Construction Company in Rockville, Md. He spent much of the speech warning that while the ongoing government shutdown was damaging, failure to raise the debt ceiling by an Oct. 17 deadline would be even worse.

"In a government shutdown, Social Security checks still go out on time. In an economic shutdown — if we don't raise the debt ceiling — they don't go out on time," Obama said. "In a government shutdown, disability benefits still arrive on time. In an economic shutdown, they don't."

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-de ... wn-2013-10
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The whole park closure thing is ridiculous also. In point of fact, Federal Administered land is actually land that is owned by the general public. The only role the Feds have in it is as custodians - janitors if you will. They don't own it, any more than the Airforce owns the airplanes they fly, or the Navy owns the ships they sail.

This principle is not well understood by many people, who actually believe the lie that the Federal Govt' owns anything. It doesn't. But they sure try like hell to make us believe they do. If we let it continue, they will eventually really own us.


The Obama Administration is ordering hundreds of parks that sit on federal land to close amid the government shutdown -- even though they don't use any government funding.

Operators of Claude Moore Colonial Farm in Virginia, for example, say they were shocked when the National Park Service ordered their park be shut. That's because it's been 80% funded by a local non-profit for years, which agreed to take over 100% of the costs of the facility as of October 1. Still, the National Park Service spent taxpayer money to erect barricades around the park and evict everyone from the farm this week.

“We do not know why CMCF was barricaded from public access or why NPS police escorted staff and volunteers off the property right before a fundraising event on Monday. The National Park Service does not pay CMCFs employees, for its operations, maintenance, events or programs,” Claude Moore Colonial Farm Operations Manager Heather Bodin wrote in an email to FOX Business. "In our 32-year history of running the farm, through other government shutdowns, we have never had to close our doors before.”

The same is true for the more than 100 U.S. Forest Service campgrounds and day-use areas run by the Arizona-based company Recreation Resource Management.

In a letter to his congressman, RRM's owner and president Warren Meyer writes that his parks haven't been affected by past government shutdowns because "our operations are self-sufficient (we are fully funded by user fees at the gate), we get no federal funds, we employ no government workers on these sites, and we actually pay rent into the Treasury."

However, Meyer says he too got orders yesterday, directly from the White House, to close up shop.

"I can only assume their intention is to artificially increase the cost of the shutdown as some sort of political ploy," Meyer said in his letter. "The point of the shutdown is to close non-essential operations that require Federal money and manpower to stay open. So why is the White House closing private operations that require no government money to keep open and actually pay a percentage of their gate revenues back to the Treasury? We are a tenant of the U.S. Forest Service, and a tenant does not have to close his business just because his landlord goes on a vacation."

A spokeswoman for the National Park Service told MyFoxDC that it is still federal land, and the rule is that if there's no Congressional appropriation, no visitors are allowed.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/government/2 ... lose-amid/
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Last I heard, it was the president's job to propose and submit a BALANCED federal budget and if that does not happen, the House and the Senate can change appropriations as they feel necessary to ensure that it is balanced.

What I assume has been proposed is anything BUT balanced and wants to increase borrowing to pay for what he wants.

The House submitted the changes that were needed to be fiscally responsible, the senate didn't like it and sent it back to the house because they stopped the presidents pet project, the president is mad, the house ultimately will give the president what he wants and we're still as screwed as we've always been and come election time for the senate, the republicans will say "see look what they've done, it's time to vote so and so out" because they know it's going to hurt us even more than we already are and they hope to use all of this to gain control of the senate and the next presidential seat.

The democrats will "make it as painful as possible" and point to this and call it the republicans fault.

Sounds about right to me, but I think they all should be fired.
 
More ridiculousness from the Embarrassment in Charge.

Just before the weekend, the National Park Service informed charter boat captains in Florida that the Florida Bay was "closed" due to the shutdown. Until government funding is restored, the fishing boats are prohibited from taking anglers into 1,100 square-miles of open ocean. Fishing is also prohibited at Biscayne National Park during the shutdown.

The Park Service will also have rangers on duty to police the ban. Of access to an ocean. The government will probably use more personnel and spend more resources to attempt to close the ocean, than it would in its normal course of business.

This is governing by temper-tantrum. It is on par with the government's ham-fisted attempts to close the DC WWII Memorial, an open-air public monument that is normally accessible 24 hours a day. By accessible I mean, you walk up to it. When you have finished reflecting, you then walk away from it.

At least that Memorial is an actual structure, with some kind of perimeter that can be fenced off. Florida Bay is the ocean. How, pray tell, do you "close" 1,100 square miles of ocean? Why would one even need to do so?

Apparently, according to an anonymous Park Service ranger, “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”

Centuries ago, King Canute famously failed to command the ocean tide to stop. His display was actually a means to educate his subjects on the limits of royal power. Today, however, our President actually believes he has the power to control the oceans.


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... f-Shutdown
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How about we make life as difficult as we can for Obama and the other idjits? I can think of several ways to do that. As has been said: "Payback is a bitch."
 
Barely a month ago, the President was wanting to go to war with Syria.

This month, there is not enough money to pay a custodian
 
John A. said:
Barely a month ago, the President was wanting to go to war with Syria.

This month, there is not enough money to pay a custodian
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There's enough to pay to close off the Memorials in DC, including paying jack-booted thugs to harass the WWII vets at THEIR memorial...
 
OhioArcher said:
John A. said:
Barely a month ago, the President was wanting to go to war with Syria.

This month, there is not enough money to pay a custodian
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There's enough to pay to close off the Memorials in DC, including paying jack-booted thugs to harass the WWII vets at THEIR memorial...
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And now at the Wall. :x :x

Via William Jacobson, NBC's affiliate in Washington, D.C. reports that police ordered tourists and Vietnam war veterans who were visiting the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall to leave the memorial at one point on Friday.

After one group of veterans went around the barricade, "the park ranger told them the wall was closed," NBC's Mark Seagraves reported. "Later another group of vets showed up and moved the barricades. At that point, the memorial filled with vets and tourists. That's when police came and moved everyone out."

The Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall is a black granite outdoor wall on which the names of the 58,272 service members who died or were unaccounted for during the Vietnam war are inscribed.

It takes more manpower and costs the government more money to close down an outdoor wall than to let people walk past it and pay their respects.

The Obama administration has been very selective in devoting resources to shutting down memorials.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/nbc ... 59267.html
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OhioArcher said:
It very well may be a trigger point if they keep it up...
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Obama and Reid will keep it up, until shots are fired.

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Another open-air memorial in the Washington area is closed and barricaded off: the Iwo Jima Memorial, just across the bridge from D.C. in Rosslyn, Virginia. A source sends along this picture of the barricade set-up at the memorial, which is also called the U.S. Marine Corps War Memorial:

"I took the picture yesterday afternoon. Those barricades had been there at least a day. People can still walk into the Memorial area, but for many elderly and disabled vets, it is important they be driven and park right next to the statue," the person who took this picture emails.

"There has been no coverage of Iwo Jima being closed and it is a routine stop for Honor Flight visitors."

The source adds: "This picture is from North Marshall Drive (100 yards up the hill from the 110) facing the only road in and out of the Memorial for cars. There are parking spots for cars and buses right next the Memorial that can only be accessed via this road. Interestingly too, the view you see is also the last 200 yards of the Marine Corps Marathon which is in three weeks. That would be 20,000 pissed off runners who have trained for months."

The stop is a popular destination for veterans and tourists alike, and, in my observation, is usually completely unmanned and unguarded. But, for some reason, it's closed to the public during this federal government shutdown.

UPDATE: I'm told, "The Syracuse Honor Flight just knocked down the barrier and a couple hundred of them are at the Memorial now."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/iwo ... 59277.html
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UPDATE: I'm told, "The Syracuse Honor Flight just knocked down the barrier and a couple hundred of them are at the Memorial now."
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Good.

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http://therightscoop.com/mark-levin-to- ... -memorial/


I want to say this loud and clear to the people on Capitol Hill who are listening, to this administration. You lay one damn hand on one of those World War II vets at that memorial and I’ll bring half a million people to that damn memorial! You got that?!



I’m sitting here stewing thinking about this – playing these damn games? You’ll ignite a movement in this country like you’ve never seen before! The biker patriot army – veterans from all over the country, every single war and battle in this country, Republican, Democrat, Independent, whatever!



I’ll be damned if one president, with his feet up on the desk in the oval office, with a smirk on his face, looking at his golf card…I’ll be damned if this president or anybody else is going to shut down that WWII memorial. Period! These men are in their 80s and 90s.



So let me repeat! You lay one hand on one of those men and arrest them for going to their memorial, which they fought for, which was not paid by you dammit, it was paid by the American people – we will come out of every town and city in this nation! We will come out of every county. And both coasts! Both borders! And we will march on Washington against your tyranny!
You’ve been warned!
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John A. said:
http://therightscoop.com/mark-levin-to-obama-you-lay-one-hand-on-ww2-vets-and-ill-bring-half-a-million-people-to-that-memorial/


I want to say this loud and clear to the people on Capitol Hill who are listening, to this administration. You lay one damn hand on one of those World War II vets at that memorial and I’ll bring half a million people to that damn memorial! You got that?!



I’m sitting here stewing thinking about this – playing these damn games? You’ll ignite a movement in this country like you’ve never seen before! The biker patriot army – veterans from all over the country, every single war and battle in this country, Republican, Democrat, Independent, whatever!



I’ll be damned if one president, with his feet up on the desk in the oval office, with a smirk on his face, looking at his golf card…I’ll be damned if this president or anybody else is going to shut down that WWII memorial. Period! These men are in their 80s and 90s.



So let me repeat! You lay one hand on one of those men and arrest them for going to their memorial, which they fought for, which was not paid by you dammit, it was paid by the American people – we will come out of every town and city in this nation! We will come out of every county. And both coasts! Both borders! And we will march on Washington against your tyranny!
You’ve been warned!
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A lot of marches being planned/ talked about on Levins facebook page.

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The embarrassment is shocking. And now they are going to take a week to figure out who/how to call civilians back to work. When it took them a week to figure out who wasn't coming. But they were sure quick to call some back to patrol some otherwise open memorials.

And did you see the story about closing the road that allow views of Mount Rushmore?

http://www.argusleader.com/article/2013 ... anger-S-D-

I don't think this is topped by "closing the ocean"...What next, I can't breathe the federal air when I go on post every morning?

This is more than embarrassing, it's silly. Games. Foolishness. All while our enemies and adversaries are planning our downfall and plotting against us, we play silly, stupid games of politics against each other. Shameful.

That being said, I put the over/under of how long this was going to last at three weeks on September 30. Looks like a lot of people should have taken the over instead of the under...
 
This is WAY over the line! :x :x

"Their message is, 'sorry, we're following orders,'" he said, describing it as a "24/7 blockade."

I've heard this excuse before. I remember, it was used at Nuremberg. :x

Las Vegas, NV (KTNV) -- The government shutdown is being felt close to home for some locals. They say they're being forced out of private homes on Lake Mead because they sit on federal land.

Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. They've been spending most of their time in the family ice cream store since going home isn't an option.

The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they've owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out.

"I had to go to town today and buy Ralph undershirts and jeans because I forgot his pants," Joyce Spencer told Action News.

The Stewart's Point home sits on federal land, so even though the Spencers own their cabin outright, they're not allowed in until the government reopens.

Park officials said property owners can visit only to retrieve belongings; they sent Action News a statement which reads in part, "Unfortunately overnight stays are not permitted until a budget is passed and the park can reopen."
Joyce Spencer said she's alright in the meantime, staying with nearby family, but the move was a lot to handle as a senior citizen.

"I had to be sure and get his walker and his scooter that he has to go in," Spencer said. "We're not hurt in any way except it might cost me if I have to go buy more pants."

The Lake Mead properties are considered vacation homes; one of the lease requirements to own a plot is people must have an alternative residence.

Regardless, the Spencers said it's their property and they should be allowed in, shutdown or not.

http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/Lake-Mea ... 57661.html
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Every opportunity possible to make it as painful as possible for people.

There is no other reason for this.
 
Some of that pain will be coming back on DC this Friday:

Tractor-trailer drivers will intentionally clog the inner loop of the Washington, D.C., beltway beginning on the morning of Oct. 11, according to a coordinator of the upcoming "Truckers Ride for the Constitution" rally.

Organizers of the three-day ride want to call attention to a litany of trucker frustrations and express their disapproval of national political leaders.

Earl Conlon, a Georgia trucker who is handling logistics for the protest, told U.S. News tractor-trailer drivers will circle the beltway "three lanes deep" as he rides with other participants to Congress to seek the arrest of congressmen for allegedly disregarding the Constitution.

[EARLIER: Truckers Say Their D.C. Shutdown Is Full-Speed Ahead]

The truckers circling I-495 will keep the left lane open for emergency vehicles, Conlon said, but "everybody that doesn't have a supporter sticker on their window, good luck: Nobody in, nobody out." The trucks will be going the 55 mile-per-hour speed limit.

D.C. commuters who wish to be allowed past the convoy must have "T2SDA" – an acronym for the event's original name, "Truckers to Shut Down America" – written on their vehicle, he said.

"It's going to be real fun for anyone who is not a supporter," Conlon said, "[and] if cops decide to give us a hard time, we're going to lock the brakes up, we're going to stop right there, we're going to be a three lane roadblock."

Zeeda Andrews, a former country music singer helping promote the protest, said last week participants would present demands to congressmen – including the impeachment of President Barack Obama – and give the congressmen an opportunity to agree to the demands in exchange for canceling the ride.

More: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201 ... ongressmen
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Commissaries are back to their normal operating schedule, said Defense Commissary Agency spokesman Kevin Robinson.

But it may take three to five business days to get the shelves fully stocked, depending on the size of the store and location. Officials have to restart the supply line after stores were closed starting Oct. 2 because of the government shutdown. Officials are asking customers to be patient as the stores go through this short period of adjustment, he said.

But shelves should be fully stocked by the end of the week, he said.

http://www.militarytimes.com/article/20 ... -time-fill
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