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Trudolph Liberals Ban Legal Handgun Imports

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I hope you & your loved ones are all well. GB
 
Dr. Caillin Langmann, firearms legislation & gun violence expert at SECU




"Bans of military-appearing firearms, semiautomatic rifles and handguns, short barrel handguns and Saturday night specials in the 1990s has resulted in no associated reduction in homicide rates."

Attached is a brief to SECU regarding the evidence behind gun bans and homicide rates, including Canadian, American, and Australian evidence.

Click link: https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ar8xH9WDz3

Dr. Caillin Langmann study's & papers
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KJnFLelMm81LFCLT6NYxcCRPM0h5e0gO
https://www.cmajopen.ca/content/10/2/E500#ref-29
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.24.22272877v1
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=2805997



Assault-style firearms are not the problem,
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2022001/article/00009-eng.htm
violent criminals are.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-005-x/2022001/article/00002-eng.htm




Victims of police-reported family and intimate partner violence in Canada, 2021
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/221019/dq221019c-eng.htm



A Review of Canadian Firearms Legislation, Homicide, and Suicide.​

Yes its long and boring. But its a review you won't get anywhere. I deep dive into all the studies available on Canadian firearms legislation and effects on homicide and suicide rates. The end result is that firearms legislation has no associated effect on homicide by firearms rates. Suicide rates by firearms decrease but overall suicide rates do not change.
 
1ABNDT said:

Anti-gun docs had 20+ SECRET MEETINGS with Liberal MP's!​

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So sick of these lying P'sOS. They have an agenda to eradicate all civilian firearms ownership and even when they put it in writing and are confronted with their BS, they deny. Saying it's a "mischaracterization" or their comments are being taken out of context...such complete horsesh*t. Hard to believe this is where we're at.
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Liberal MP EXPOSED by her OWN witness!

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I've said it before, but Damoff is the worst. I've met and known people just like her...they even look like her for crying out loud! I have no respect for them and I have no respect for her. She is lame duck mouthpiece that just can't help herself. She constantly says the absolutely stupidest sh*t. And lies like a cheap rug.

She also looks like she drinks a lot of cheap wine, but that's for another place and time.
 
Are illegal immigrants allowed to easily vote in Canada? You need to be naturalized to vote for president here in US--Practice TEST. I think such a test should be required to get a voter ID. But many shithole states allow the illegals to vote for lesser offices and to me that is unconstitutional... :mad:
 
Fortunately, we have very strict rules on who can vote in Canada. Only Canadian citizens can vote and every (in-person) voter must present government issued, picture ID to be handed a ballot. To get a mail-in ballot you must be registered to vote and you must request a ballot be sent to your registered address. As far as I know, Elections Canada still counts every ballot by hand. The provinces, cities and municipalities can decide for themselves if they want to use machines or whatever. But, I don't think many do. In my town, they do use vote tabulating machines.

As you know Canada has traditionally been a more left-leaning country and even the most lefty of the left that I know of have no issue with excluding non-citizens and forcing everyone to show government ID. Where the Dems EVER got the idea that barring non-citizens from voting and forcing voters to show ID is somehow "voter suppression" is absolutely mind boggling. Like, what kind of hallucinogens are you taking to come up with that???

All that said, it still doesn't mean there couldn't possibly be voter fraud. It is possible. However, less likely. It is also possible to muck with the delivery of mail-in ballots being handed over by the deadline to Elections Canada. Apparently, last time (September 2021) there was somewhere in the neighbourhood of 200,000 ballots rejected by Elections Canada because Canada Post did not deliver them in time. This raised more than a few eyebrows and caused a stir. However, it likely would not have changed the overall outcome of the election though it could have changed a few names on a few seats here and there.

I wouldn't want to speculate on the possibility of mail-in ballots being distributed to ineligible individuals. I don't know enough of the inner workings and safeguards on the voter registration rolls to make a guess. I only know that Elections Canada traditionally takes their role extremely seriously and has always remained non-partisan...at least from the outside looking in.
 









TheGunBlog.ca — Watch our review and outlook for Canadian gun rights at the end of the first quarter 2023.

It isn’t all bleak. There’s some good news.
Summary

Budget 2023: Door-to-Door Mass Gun Confiscations on Hold
Alberta: Passes Firearms Act to Block Confiscations
SECU: Voter MasterClass in Political Rot
Bill C-21: Stalled at SECU
Liberals: Still Clueless How to Execute Their Confiscation Fantasy
Anti-Gun Bias: Nova Scotia Mass Casualty Commission
Outlook: Courts, Election, Short Term Vs. Long Term, Hope

Duration: 19 minutes

Sources Mentioned

Liberal Budget 2023 on Firearms / Confiscations

Chapter 4: Advancing Reconciliation and Building a Canada That Works for Everyone | Budget 2023

Chapter 4 of Budget 2023 propose measures that will help advancing reconciliation, protect the environment and build a stronger and more inclusive Canada.
www.budget.canada.ca www.budget.canada.ca

Alberta Firearms Act Becomes Law, Blocking Trudeau’s Mass Gun Confiscations
thegunblog.ca

Canada Gun Rights News: Week of 2023 March 27 | TheGunBlog.ca

Agenda and gun-rights news round-up for Canadian gun owners and businesses.
thegunblog.ca thegunblog.ca

SECU: Lynda Kiejko speaks on March 07 starting at 16:41:15 (Video)
parlvu.parl.gc.ca

SECU Meeting No. 59

Meeting No. 59 SECU - Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security
parlvu.parl.gc.ca

Mass Casualty Commission’s Anti-Gun Recommendations: Volume 4, Page 590 (PDF)
 
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Hearing (Judicial Review) – Audience (contrôle judiciaire)
CASSANDRA PARKER ET AL. v. ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CANADA ET AL.
CANADIAN COALITION FOR FIREARM RIGHTS ET AL. v. AGC ET AL.
JOHN HIPWELL v. ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CANADA ET AL.
MICHAEL JOHN DOHERTY ET AL v. AGC ET AL
CHRISTINE GENEROUX ET AL. v. HIS MAJESTY THE KING ET AL.
JENNIFER EICHENBERG, DAVID BOT, LEONARD WALKER ET AL. v. AGC

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link 2 register
https://cas-satj.zoom.us/webinar/reg...T3OeNl5IZz_82w
 

SECU Meeting 62: STELLAR (Marco Returns )​

Questioning the Minister: Gun Bans Aren't Stopping Criminals​


RCMP Debunk the Circumvention Claim​

Liberals announce new amendments to Bill C-21​

Liberals Attack Canadian Hunters AGAIN​

BREAKING: New C-21 Amendments, regulations on "Ghost Guns", large capacity magazine bans, and more​


This afternoon, Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino, flanked by his Liberal colleagues, announced that his government would be bringing forward new amendments to Bill C-21 which include amending the criminal code definition of a "prohibited firearm" to include:


  • A firearm that is not a handgun and that
  • Discharges centre fire ammunition;
  • In a semi-automatic manner; and
  • Was originally designed with a detachable magazine with a capacity of six cartridges or more

VERY IMPORTANT:


According to Public Safety Canada, this technical definition would cover firearms designed and manufactured after Bill C-21 comes into force; it would not affect the classification of existing firearms in the Canadian market.


This made gun control advocates very angry, and they even held a press conference of their own to express their anger at these new amendments and measures. They went as far as declaring they would not participate in the CFAC committee, if called upon by the Liberals, calling it useless, and citing their participation in a previous CFAC that led to nothing.


Other amendments to be introduced to Bill C-21 include:


Reintroducing the measures related to "ghost guns":


  • Add illegally manufactured firearms to the definition of "prohibited firearm" in the Criminal Code; and
  • Define "firearms part" in the Criminal Code to include barrels, slides for handguns and parts prescribed by regulations.

Including a provision regarding Aboriginal and treaty rights of Indigenous peoples:


  • The provisions of Bill C-21 are to be construed as upholding the Aboriginal and treaty rights of Indigenous peoples recognized and affirmed by section 35 of the Constitution Act, 1982, and not as abrogating or derogating them.

Require a parliamentary review of the technical definition:


  • This review would start five years after coming into force of the new provision.

Other measures announced today:​


Make regulations under the Firearms Act to ensure that firearms are classified correctly before entering the Canadian market by requiring a valid Firearm Reference Table (FRT) number:


  • This would ensure that firearms are classified correctly, and that the Government is aware of the presence of new makes and models of firearms before entry into the domestic market.

Update regulations regarding large capacity magazines to:


  • Require the permanent alteration of long-gun magazines so they can never hold more than five rounds; and
  • Ban the sale or transfer of magazines capable of holding more than the legal number of bullets.

Establish an independent Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee to:


  • Provide advice to the Minister of Public Safety on pragmatic measures to reform Canada's firearms policies, laws and regulations to ensure a modernized firearms regime that will keep Canadians safe and preserves access to firearms reasonable for use for hunting and sporting.
  • The Minister will seek advice from the Committee on next steps to consider further actions related to the current market of firearms.




The CCFR will continue to oppose Bill C-21 and any new regulations that have a negative impact on Canadian firearms owners.


These amendments are likely to be revealed at tomorrow's SECU meeting, which you can watch here.
 
Liberal Mantra: “We’re Not Happy Until You’re Not Happy”

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On Monday, Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino announced new amendments to Bill C-21 that would, if passed, add a definition of “prohibited firearm” to the Criminal Code.

This codified definition would provide clarity and certainty to the firearms community, Mendicino said.

“All of these steps align with the recommendations of the Mass Casualty Commission's final report,” Mendicino stated.https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001he-...5BNiPfZ4WD-1zAktWJKXIv4GGx1jt9FdkEANJSRQKaA==

Yet neither the Commission’s recommendations nor Mendicino’s proposed amendments to Bill C-21 would prevent the Nova Scotia killer from obtaining the illegal guns he used to commit many of his atrocities.
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    • Gasoline remains legal. (as it should)
    • Smuggling guns remains illegal. (as it should)
    • Murder remains illegal. (as it should)


As gun owners, we knew we would not be happy with whatever nonsense Mendicino announced.

Others, who expected to be thrilled, were grossly disappointed.

PolySeSouvient and others demanded a total ban on all semi-automatic firearms.

They didn’t get it, so those groups who are normally supportive of Liberal grandstanding on the gun issue threw metaphorical Molotov cocktails at Justin Trudeau, Marco Mendicino and their proposed changes.

“I am extremely angry, extremely disappointed and feel betrayed,” said Nathalie Provost.[ii]

“This is a gift to the gun lobby and to Pierre Poilievre & his Conservative Party,” PolySeSouvient ranted on Twitter, “who will have an easy time reversing this less-than-half-measure. Tens of thousands [of] assault weapons remain legal and owners of models banned in 2020 will just take money to buy legal ones #WhatBan”.[iii]

We hope PolySeSouvient is correct, that a Pierre Poilievre government will have an easy time undoing this mess. But that’s a discussion for another day.

“The net effect of this is the Liberals selling as courageous policy what is actually a near-total retreat,” wrote Matt Gurney.[iv]

This new definition would not be retroactive. Firearms legal today will not be subject to these restrictions, should this pass and become law.

It would only affect “firearms designed and manufactured after Bill C-21 comes into force; it would not affect the classification of existing firearms in the Canadian market.”[v]

As we noted in Monday’s CSSA Special Report, this creates a new level of confusion for gun owners, firearms businesses and law enforcement.

This is a real problem, and one that will likely cost a lot of good people their peace of mind (and small fortunes in legal fees) depending on how law enforcement deals with semi-automatic firearms and their owners – should this become law.

Police forces are already challenged to know what category a firearm falls under using the current classification system. Adding a cut-off date for legality only sows more confusion.

Too often in the past we’ve see police charge someone and “let the courts sort it out” and that is completely unacceptable.


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To Recap​


Mendicino’s proposed amendments to Bill C-21 would:

  • Amend subsection Criminal Code 84(1) to define “prohibited firearm” as “A firearm that is not a handgun and that discharges centre-fire ammunition; in a semi-automatic manner; and was originally designed with a detachable magazine with a capacity of six cartridges or more.”

  • “Firearm part” would be modified to include barrels and slides for handguns.

  • Illegally-manufactured firearms – presumably to focus on 3D-printed firearms and other “ghost guns” – would also be added to the definition of “prohibited firearms.”

  • New magazine restrictions would require magazines for long guns be permanently modified to a 5-round maximum. Sales or transfers of standard capacity magazines would be prohibited.

The upside, as we see it, is that shooting sports like Trap and Skeet will continue to thrive in Canada. This is a great thing.

Firearms legal today (if Mendicino and the Liberals are to be believed) will remain legal, adding certainty to businesses and firearm users alike. This is also a good thing.

That the Liberals walked back their promises to anti-gun groups like PolySeSouvient is a wonderful thing. This decision makes it fairly clear that their internal polling is not telling them what PolySeSouvient wants them to hear.

All in all, these developments give us hope for the future of firearm ownership in Canada, our culture of safety and our commitment to wildlife conservation.

Will our hopes for the future of firearm ownership and use be realized under a future Pierre Poilievre government?

That will depend upon each and every one of us, both in the next federal election and after it.

It is our duty, our responsibility, to vote.

It’s also our duty and responsibility to hold those we elect accountable for keeping their promises to us, their employers.​

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The CSAAA & Wes Winkel (Ellwood Epps in Ontario) are F traitors! Let it be know.

The Liberals are trying to fill in the blanks for their gun 'buyback' program
https://youtu.be/rJXhYetY9sk

The Contractor must perform the following tasks:
4.1 Within one week of contract award, the Contractor must attend a kick-off meeting with the PS Project Authority (PA), and other stakeholders where required, to discuss the requirements under the Prime Minister’s mandate as well as a proposed approach and methodology to achieve the objectives stated above.

4.2 Based on the kick-off meeting and a review of the background materials, PS will review and approve the approach and methodology to compile necessary data by the Contractor to allow PS to calculate the average pricing for the prohibited firearms. The Contractor must develop and provide PS with an inventory report template (to include, at minimum, the suggested data fields under Appendix A) that will serve as a baseline for the data fields to be collected and then validated by PS.

4.3 PS will review the proposed inventory report template, amend as necessary and send changes to the Contractor for input. The Contractor must incorporate changes accordingly and complete the final version of the template for each channel submission (manufacturers, distributors and retailers). The Contractor must seek final sign off from the PA.
4.4 The PA will provide written approval on the proposed approach and methodology by the Contractor to reach out to manufacturers, distributors and retailers. The collected data, which includes each individual firearm and component part and a list of recoverable expenses, will then be compiled under an “Inventory Template” to be used to conduct the work under this requirement.
4.5 The Contractor must develop a communication and engagement strategy that outlines:
4.5.1 How manufacturers, distributors and retailers in the firearm industry will be initially contacted,communicated with and information exchanged;
4.5.2 The specific communication with all manufacturers, distributors and retailers, including those which are not members of the CSAAA, about the process to collect inventory data and how the inventory will be costed;
4.5.3 The responsibility to initiate communication with approximately 2600 firearms businesses(provide a tracking list and supporting evidence with exact date/time) in order to collect the required information.

4.6 The Contractor must coordinate the collection of all information:
4.6.1 Once PS’s approval is granted, the Contractor must dispatch the inventory report template to all businesses (CSAAA members and non-members);
4.6.2 The Contractor must collect all completed inventory reports from its members and nonmembers and perform quality assurance and validation before submitting the inventory report to PS. The Contractor must provide a Quality Assurance Report outlining how information received from businesses was validated and, where required, challenged for accuracy.The Contractor must also include in the Quality Assurance Report recommendations on how to address any discrepancies in the collected data;
4.6.3 The Contractor must follow up with non-responsive businesses and those having submitted incomplete data. The Contractor must provide the PA information on unresponsive businesses as part of the bi-weekly Inventory Report (or upon request);File No. 0D160-233228Page 10 of - de 15
4.6.4 The Contractor must provide information on proof of destruction (in accordance with the Firearms Act) and share this validation with PS as part of the information submitted by each business.;
4.6.5 The Contractor must collect data related to each channel’s capacity to recycle and the associated costs. The information must be part of the Inventory Report as well.


CSAAA Industry Round table | Public Safety "Buyback" Announcement
https://youtu.be/5WPP7-ZSBrI



12-Month Lobbying Summary - In-house Organization Canadian Sporting Arms & Ammunition Association​

https://lobbycanada.gc.ca/app/secur...lientOrgCorpNumber=366119&sMdKy=1636982209535​

 
A Message to Canadian Gun Store Owners https://youtu.be/vDbhtzPdT28

It appears the CSAAA (the Canadian Sporting Arms & Ammunition Association) has sold out to Trudeau's Liberal government as it struggles to implement Bill C-21. It now stands to profit by collecting a commission for every firearm it helps the government confiscate. It will also report on any gun stores that do not fully comply with their requests for data. In addition, they will even be supervising the destruction our confiscated property. There is a category of Canadians who are in a position to put a stop to this organization and that is the gun-buying public they depend on. This video addresses the question of who to contact and why the CSAAA's days will be numbered as a result of this.



I hope you are a well, GB you & your loved ones.
 

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So much could be said about all this. But the CSAAA made a deal with the devil and we know how that will end for them.

How could they have ever sat there as a board and actually read past 4.6.3 and not all said "Hell no! We're out!" ??? If the gov't pulled a fastie on them somehow...before the full details of the contract were known....but even so. They should have known better than to even entertain such an idea.

All of us in the gun community need to disabuse ourselves of one really important false assumption. That the government is dumb and has no idea what they're doing. That they are a bunch of bumbling idiots that are blind and illiterate. That notion could not be more false when it comes to firearms. (When your end game is total disarmament it doesn't matter about "the shoulder thing that goes up" or any other stupid thing said by some politician or their gross lack of general firearms knowledge. They don't need to know guns to ban them.)

These people are calculating and cunning and are doing everything in their power to ram their agenda down our throats...even co-opting a firearm industry advocacy association and attempting to weaponize it against us. All the while working feverishly to enshrine into law what they did by fiat in 2020, which would essentially nullify any and all current legal challenges.

These people are smart. We need to be smarter. We need to pull our heads out of our asses, stop fighting amongst ourselves and get about fixing this mess with a unified voice.
 
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So much could be said about all this. But the CSAAA made a deal with the devil and we know how that will end for them.

How could they have ever sat there as a board and actually read past 4.6.3 and not all said "Hell no! We're out!" ??? If the gov't pulled a fastie on them somehow...before the full details of the contract were known....but even so. They should have known better than to even entertain such an idea.

All of us in the gun community need to disabuse ourselves of one really important false assumption. That the government is dumb and has no idea what they're doing. That they are a bunch of bumbling idiots that are blind and illiterate. That notion could not be more false when it comes to firearms. (When your end game is total disarmament it doesn't matter about "the shoulder thing that goes up" or any other stupid thing said by some politician or their gross lack of general firearms knowledge. They don't need to know guns to ban them.)

These people are calculating and cunning and are doing everything in their power to ram their agenda down our throats...even co-opting a firearm industry advocacy association and attempting to weaponize it against us. All the while working feverishly to enshrine into law what they did by fiat in 2020, which would essentially nullify any and all current legal challenges.

These people are smart. We need to be smarter. We need to pull our heads out of our asses, stop fighting amongst ourselves and get about fixing this mess with a unified voice.
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This video will explain how Wes Winkel went around others.

CSAAA Industry Roundtable | Public Safety "Buyback" Announcement​


A Lawyer Explains Canada's Further Gun Bans (More C-21 Amendments)​


They have plans to ban "shotguns & lever actions", via tube restriction, the caveat is that they have a placed a "non disclosure' on the amendment.


Wait until you here the misinformation/disinformation by Pam Dumoff & Elizabeth May, on the SKS & more. If you want to hear Canadas version of Wonder Woman Conservative MP Rachel Dancho putting the Liberals to task, go to time stamp; 38:07. F epic!

Raquel Dancho's EPIC STAND for Gun Owners (May 8th, 2023)​

 
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