Trudolph Liberals Ban Legal Handgun Imports

[Bobster]

The classic one is the urban sprawl...neighborhoods expand into traditionally rural and farming lands. City folks move to the new suburbs and complain about the noise from the gun range a mile away that's been there for 50 years.

I live in a "city" that I would consider to be a "bedroom community" for Orlando. A large portion of the population travel to Orlando for work at the attractions or hotels or whatever. Orlando is about a 1/2 hour away and getting further due to traffic--they can't build roads fast enough. LINK I avoid Orlando like the Plague...

Anyhow, when I first moved here 18 years ago, I-4 (interstate between Daytona and Tampa, runs through Orlando) was 2 lanes each way including a bridge. They build a new wider bridge over the St Johns River and widened the highway to 3 lanes each way. Redid highway interchanges and all that. That was 10-15 years ago. Used to be many rural areas closeby, lots of open space and farms. It was OK around here with a development here or there, nothing bad, IMO. But in the last 2-3 years they have been building like crazy. Large expanses of woods, farm and swampland have succumbed to development. And not large lots with modest houses, I'm talking small cookie-cutter homes jammed right next to each other. And on my way to my shop is an area that they have thrown up these 3-story apartment complexes, at least a dozen that I can see from the road and I would estimate maybe 30-40 units per. They are absolutely hideous! I really don't know where all these people are going to work...

Back on track , many of the rural dwellers are on say 5-10 acre lots and in unincorporated areas. The city tries to annex them and they tell the city to fark off, as would I. The city frowns upon "shooting in your backyard" while the unincorporated county does not. It is not uncommon to hear shooting off in the distance on a Sunday afternoon. And I KNOW these homes were built right on the edge of unincorporated areas. I often see people complaining about it to which I reply those are the "Sounds of Freedom".

 

[1ABNDT]

NFA President Rick Igercich Joins The Conversation On The Gunn Show

 

[cmcdonald]

So here's my take on what's happening or is likely to happen.

We are going to another election.

Turdo is not backing down in the media to any significant degree and he's going to gamble that many, many Canadians are stupid enough to vote for him again. The NDP is publicly opposing the amendments and he will gamble that he can play the progressive hero once again and make it work for him. He's hoping there's enough uninformed voters to give him the majority he's craving, as he pretends to be the only one who truly cares about everyone's feelings enough to make the hard calls...you know the ones that really matter...sigh. That is unless you're a gun owner or an oil patch worker or...or....or

He'll use the current proposed gun ban as a wedge issue like he has in the last two elections. It's worked before and I predict he is going to try again. I saw him the other day giving a funding announcement, which is usually just about himself, the Libs and their inflated egos'. Nope, for as many times as he praised himself and his comrades, he criticized the Conservatives for something else. That was electioneering if I've ever seen it.

This bill is being tied up now in committee and is unlikely to make it to the Senate before everything shuts down for the holidays. When they get rolling again in the new year, there will be an election called. After all this...the bill could actually die before getting royal assent. Which means, if his plan works then he gets to do this all over again. Wash, rinse, repeat................

EDIT: One might assume by that last line that I don't have much faith in the Canadian electorate....you would be correct.

 

[CaddmannQ]

I want you to explain what royal assent amounts to. Are they actually going to send it to Charlie in London?

 

[cmcdonald]

I want you to explain what royal assent amounts to. Are they actually going to send it to Charlie in London?

Royal assent is the approval of a piece of legislation by the Senate. My understanding is that if a bill passes in the Senate then the Governor General (King or Queen's appointed representative) gives the rubber stamp. But, essentially if the Senate gives it's approval, then it comes into force and becomes law. It's basically the last step in the legislative process.

FYI - Senators in Canada are not elected but are appointed for life by the Prime Minister. The Senate is referred to as "the chamber of sober, second thought". It is supposed to be above all the politicking and focused on the greater good of the country. The Senate has the power to kill the legislation altogether (almost never happens on high profile bills like this one) or can order major re-writes of screwball legislation, sending the bill back to the House for a re-write or to die a slow death.

 

[1ABNDT]

The biggest 2 reasons why the Liberals are trying to hide G4/G46 in C21 is because they know that the May 1st 2020 MSR ban is full of holes and are worried they will loose in court coming up in April, so buy moving it to C21 they "avoid' the "courts" and the "buyback". The "anti gun" groups want it "enshrined in law', if it goes through the only way out is a new government(Majority) and or "Non Compliance, jail,death."

The Libs/Ndp/Bloc are all walking back their lies now that their constituents are "up in arms" and feeding the sheep more lies that they were blindsided as well. These clowns have banned a "F" break action and they want to ban airsoft. If these DB were to have actually "consulted" anyone but "themselves" over the last 3yrs then perhaps they wouldn't of had to anger everyone because of their deviance.


You know what I wish for right now, for the right hand of God to commence on this earth and with one swipe of his mighty hand return this malfeasance back to where they belong.

Carey Price faces off against Justin Trudeau, calls proposed firearms bans ‘unjust’

The prime minister acknowledged the furor that’s erupted from the hunting community over proposed amendments to Bill C-21 that would massively expand the list of banned rifles and shotguns.

www.thestar.com

Trudeau listening to concerns assault-style gun definition covers hunting rifles

The Liberal government is listening to concerns that some of the firearms it's looking to ban are used primarily for hunting, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Monday.

www.ctvnews.ca

Stay safe everyone, all the best to you and your loved ones. Hooah!

 

[cmcdonald]

The biggest 2 reasons why the Liberals are trying to hide G4/G46 in C21 is because they know that the May 1st 2020 MSR ban is full of holes and are worried they will loose in court coming up in April, so buy moving it to C21 they "avoid' the "courts" and the "buyback". The "anti gun" groups want it "enshrined in law', if it goes through the only way out is a new government(Majority) and or "Non Compliance, jail,death."

The Libs/Ndp/Bloc are all walking back their lies now that their constituents are "up in arms" and feeding the sheep more lies that they were blindsided as well. These clowns have banned a "F" break action and they want to ban airsoft. If these DB were to have actually "consulted" anyone but "themselves" over the last 3yrs then perhaps they wouldn't of had to anger everyone because of their deviance.


You know what I wish for right now, for the right hand of God to commence on this earth and with one swipe of his mighty hand return this malfeasance back to where they belong.

Carey Price faces off against Justin Trudeau, calls proposed firearms bans ‘unjust’

The prime minister acknowledged the furor that’s erupted from the hunting community over proposed amendments to Bill C-21 that would massively expand the list of banned rifles and shotguns.

www.thestar.com

Trudeau listening to concerns assault-style gun definition covers hunting rifles

The Liberal government is listening to concerns that some of the firearms it's looking to ban are used primarily for hunting, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Monday.

www.ctvnews.ca

Stay safe everyone, all the best to you and your loved ones. Hooah!

You're absolutely right. The buyback sounded great to the uneducated and/or moderate type (non-gun owning) voter until the estimates of cost started to roll in...that's when the first eyebrows went up. Of course, that was long after firearms owners were already giving JT the one finger salute. I have no doubt that the Libs insistence on cabinet privilege and secrecy surrounding the origins of the May 1, 2020 OIC would be their undoing in court where all that matters is evidence. If you present no evidence, you have no case.

And, I should add that if we take them for idiot buffoons then we're dumber than we look too. They're not dumb. They know how the system works and they know exactly what they're doing. The know how much time it takes for these things to go through the processes. They know to expect pushback from the Conservatives and they plan for it. Stalling legislation and blaming the Conservatives for it is just easy and idiot msm zombies believe it hook, line and sinker. I am aghast at the level of lies coming at us from this federal government...it is stunning and quite frankly it scares the hell out of me. And, the msm just runs cover for them. It's sickening how they all lie and lie and lie...and do so with gusto.

I heard commentary from both an msm commentator and a Liberal minister today that referred to "the gun lobby in Canada"...of course both used the term in a derisive manner. Whatever, we're used to it by now. But my point is this, the "gun lobby" in this country is not some ultra powerful, faceless, corporate NPO (no offence NRA...LOL). The gun lobby in this country is just average Canadian gun owners and some small to medium size firearms businesses coming together to be heard...and that's it. Truly nothing more than that. The gun lobby is a just a bunch of Canadians guys and gals that are tired of being defecated on so another lying Liberal POS can get easy votes and play hero.

Indeed @1ABNDT the right hand is coming. No one knows the day or the hour. But it is coming my friend and of that you can be sure.

 

[1ABNDT]

Here is why this is "Zero Hour"

Trudeau Violating the Bill of Rights to Seize Canadians Property (G4)

✂️ Justin Trudeau Violating Bill of Right to Seize Canadian property (G4)

40 seconds · Clipped by 1 AB · Original video "Justin Trudeau violating Bill of Rights to seize Canadian property (Bill C-21 amendment)" by CCFR

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[1ABNDT]

You're absolutely right. The buyback sounded great to the uneducated and/or moderate type (non-gun owning) voter until the estimates of cost started to roll in...that's when the first eyebrows went up. Of course, that was long after firearms owners were already giving JT the one finger salute. I have no doubt that the Libs insistence on cabinet privilege and secrecy surrounding the origins of the May 1, 2020 OIC would be their undoing in court where all that matters is evidence. If you present no evidence, you have no case.

And, I should add that if we take them for idiot buffoons then we're dumber than we look too. They're not dumb. They know how the system works and they know exactly what they're doing. The know how much time it takes for these things to go through the processes. They know to expect pushback from the Conservatives and they plan for it. Stalling legislation and blaming the Conservatives for it is just easy and idiot msm zombies believe it hook, line and sinker. I am aghast at the level of lies coming at us from this federal government...it is stunning and quite frankly it scares the hell out of me. And, the msm just runs cover for them. It's sickening how they all lie and lie and lie...and do so with gusto.

I heard commentary from both an msm commentator and a Liberal minister today that referred to "the gun lobby in Canada"...of course both used the term in a derisive manner. Whatever, we're used to it by now. But my point is this, the "gun lobby" in this country is not some ultra powerful, faceless, corporate NPO (no offence NRA...LOL). The gun lobby in this country is just average Canadian gun owners and some small to medium size firearms businesses coming together to be heard...and that's it. Truly nothing more than that. The gun lobby is a just a bunch of Canadians guys and gals that are tired of being defecated on so another lying Liberal POS can get easy votes and play hero.

Indeed @1ABNDT the right hand is coming. No one knows the day or the hour. But it is coming my friend and of that you can be sure.

Our government knows the NRA is banned from Canada, yet uses it as a "scare tactic", Trudeaus "gun control" lobby brought in a "victim" from "Dawson college" to speak in a Canadian commitee meeting on Bill C 21. No relevance what so every, just endless "grave dancing."

 

[1ABNDT]

Meeting No. 52 SECU - Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security Bill C21

Location Wellington Building - 425

Scheduled

Tuesday, Dec 6, 2022

15:33 - 17:30

1 Hour 56 Minutes

SECU Meeting No. 52

Meeting No. 52 SECU - Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security

parlvu.parl.gc.ca

 

[1ABNDT]

CAN’T SNEAK ONE BY CAREY: Canadians goalie says Liberals' gun bill is unjust

Sun political columnist Lorne Gunter speaks highly of Montreal Canadiens’ goalie Carey Price with him standing up to the recent Liberals gun confiscation tactic.

 

[1ABNDT]

 
 CSSA
 
 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE –

December 7, 2022

RCMP Caught Lying to Parliament

Canadian Firearms Program Technical Specialist Murray Smith Misleads MPs

OTTAWA – Today, Tony Bernardo, Executive Director of the Canadian Shooting Sports Association, issued the following statement regarding comments made by the RCMP’s Murray Smith at the House of Commons Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security.



“Members of Parliament require impartial expert advice while they deliberate on legislation. Canadian Firearms Program Technical Specialist Murray Smith had an important duty to inform Members of Parliament about technical firearms issues. Unfortunately, he took the opportunity to spread ideologically-based misinformation.



“When asked an intelligent question by Liberal MP Taleeb Noormohamed about the ridiculous prohibition of a .22 plinking rifle, Smith misled the committee by saying that the Mossberg 715T rifle was a variant of the AR-15 rifle and bore no resemblance to the Mossberg 702.



“The reality is that the Mossberg 715 shares no common parts with the AR-15. It is a Mossberg 702 rifle with a plastic shell designed to have a similar look to the AR-15."



“If Mr. Smith does not know these simple facts – available to anyone remotely acquainted with firearms – it raises serious concerns about what qualifications he has to be considered a “technical specialist.”



“The CSSA calls on the RCMP to immediately correct the record. Following recent scandals where the RCMP put the interest of its Liberal political masters first, we believe it would hurt public confidence in the RCMP to see yet another case.



“Misleading Parliament does not show our elected representatives, nor the people who sent them there, the respect that they deserve.

 

[1ABNDT]

And this is how ridiculous the "amendment" in C21 called the "evergreen" program that continually evaluates firearms for the chopping block. So when they tell us to just go buy another firearm, for what so you can ban that one too when they feel like.

Trudeau's Gun Grab goes evergreen - Justice For Gun Owners

Trudeau's gun grab goes evergreen. Blair announces "evergreen" gambit - continual confiscations by secretly prohibiting firearms arbitrarily.

justiceforgunowners.ca

It essentially does this; Same shotguns except for one looks 'tactical" so it would be banned. lol

 

[1ABNDT]

Let me show you guys how ridiculous this is and the manipulation by the government to have the RCMP "reclassify" firearms for their benefit to ban firearms. This government likes to use "military style" or a "firearm that has seen the battle field"

Not sure if you are Familiar with the Stag 10 .308, this company had built a purpose made rifle just for the Canadian market to meet the "Non restricted" designation(semi auto18.5 inch barrel 5 round mag) to allow for it to be imported/approved for "hunting and Sporting purposes.

This rifle has never seen deployment or conflict, yet the Government colluded with the RCMP to have the "Canadian Law comments erased" and reclassified to "prohibited" after the May 1st ban on "assault rifles" Even though those were banned in the 90's.

Pre May 1st 2020 ban "NR"

 

[John A.]

I detest liars.

It's one thing to make an honest mistake. But the people that are testifying, are the same kind of "experts" that you would find on the evening news explaining what the tornado sounded like as it approached the trailer park.

 

[1ABNDT]

I detest liars.

It's one thing to make an honest mistake. But the people that are testifying, are the same kind of "experts" that you would find on the evening news testifying what the tornado sounded like as it approached the trailer park.

The "government experts" RCMP/ CFP (Canadian Firearms Program) These "idiots" were caught in their own stupidity yesterday in the SECU committee "re banning" shotguns from the 90's, I swear Rod Serling couldn't write a script like this!

 

[John A.]

It's not stupidity my friend.

It's attrition.

: the act of weakening or exhausting by constant harassment, abuse, or attack

 

[1ABNDT]

It's not stupidity my friend.

It's attrition.

: the act of weakening or exhausting by constant harassment, abuse, or attack

Agreed​

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The Truth About Canada's Gun Ban​

 

[cmcdonald]

 
 CSSA
 
 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE –

December 7, 2022

RCMP Caught Lying to Parliament

Canadian Firearms Program Technical Specialist Murray Smith Misleads MPs

OTTAWA – Today, Tony Bernardo, Executive Director of the Canadian Shooting Sports Association, issued the following statement regarding comments made by the RCMP’s Murray Smith at the House of Commons Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security.



“Members of Parliament require impartial expert advice while they deliberate on legislation. Canadian Firearms Program Technical Specialist Murray Smith had an important duty to inform Members of Parliament about technical firearms issues. Unfortunately, he took the opportunity to spread ideologically-based misinformation.



“When asked an intelligent question by Liberal MP Taleeb Noormohamed about the ridiculous prohibition of a .22 plinking rifle, Smith misled the committee by saying that the Mossberg 715T rifle was a variant of the AR-15 rifle and bore no resemblance to the Mossberg 702.



“The reality is that the Mossberg 715 shares no common parts with the AR-15. It is a Mossberg 702 rifle with a plastic shell designed to have a similar look to the AR-15."



“If Mr. Smith does not know these simple facts – available to anyone remotely acquainted with firearms – it raises serious concerns about what qualifications he has to be considered a “technical specialist.”



“The CSSA calls on the RCMP to immediately correct the record. Following recent scandals where the RCMP put the interest of its Liberal political masters first, we believe it would hurt public confidence in the RCMP to see yet another case.



“Misleading Parliament does not show our elected representatives, nor the people who sent them there, the respect that they deserve.

Sh!tty people make sh!tty decisions and say sh!tty things.

The level of lying and hyperbole required to make all this nonsense go round is staggering. And, if this doesn't convince people that large conspiracies can and do exist...they are just wilfully blind. This is a blatant example of a campaign of literally hundreds if not thousands of officials across many different agencies and levels of government, across the entire country spouting the same lies and hysterical rhetoric. The few opposing voices are almost inaudible.

This whole issue sends cold shivers down my spine.

 

[1ABNDT]

Damn what a day, and what a Rush!!!!!! Hope you all are well.

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The moment Raquel Dancho was removed (Full Clip)​

Ejected from House of Commons for telling the truth on Bill C-21 (Raquel Dancho)​

CCFR Radio - Ep 132: Holy Sh**, Liberal narrative collapsing, CCFR embroiled in controversy

The flames are reaching the sky in your battle to keep your firearms! RCMP refusing RPAL applications, Promocode controversy, C-21 committee exploding, Liberal narrative crumbling, NDP\Bloc MP’s run for the exits. Letter writing campaigns in full swing and more! SHARE THIS PODCAST!

SECU Meeting 53: FIREARMS 101 (Liberals Learn About Guns)

Even Some Liberals MP'S Are Not Happy​

"Going after criminals with guns" Lol, heres the policy;
Bill C-5 that eliminates a number of firearms offenses and the mandatory prison times, such as robbery with a firearm, discharging a firearm with intent to harm, and weapons trafficking. How will this stop gangs/criminal organizations

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-justice/news/2021/12/mandatory-minimum-penalties-to-be-

repealed.html




Just to summarize as to what is transpiring;

I have been watching all the SECU committee meetings on C21 and Ms. Dancho and the Conservatives along with 'firearm owners" are correct, not only have the Liberals been filibustering the committee both on Tues (never mind the last 3yrs) but to ask the same questions on Thurs when 3 days earlier Trudeau was all over the news saying how "he wants to listen & consult". Yet when the question in committee came up for clarification on a question to the 'government expert" he "couldn't clarify" the chair wouldn't allow the unanimous vote to bring in "outside/experts/voices" how is that "listening or consulting".

What the Liberals are trying to do here is the same thing they did on the May 1st 2020 ban, ram through legislation with "no democratic process" while "hiding amendments along the way"(Omnibus bill). And if they succeed to 'enshrine it into law" then they will pay these people "nothing and confiscate they're legally purchased property" for no viable democratic reason at all.

What a "sad little country" this has become. But we fight, Sempre Avante!