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Canada: Gun Control Advocates Boast Handgun Ban is “Within Reach”

Discussion in 'Firearm Related' started by Scoop, Jan 19, 2019.

  1. Scoop

    Scoop .30-06

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    Canada’s Gun Control Advocates Boast Handgun Ban is “Within Reach”
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    FRIDAY, JANUARY 11, 2019
    On August 28, 2018, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau instructed Bill Blair, his minister of Border Security and Organized Crime Reduction, to examine the feasibility of “a full ban on handguns and assault weapons in Canada.” A government websiteestablished as part of the public consultation process on this issue confirms that “The Prime Minister has publicly committed to examining all options relating to a handgun ban.”

    Handguns are already exhaustively regulated in Canada as either “restricted” or “prohibited” firearms. Among other things, to legally own a restricted or prohibited handgun, a person must have a valid license (Possession and Acquisition Licence) with the requisite restricted or prohibited privileges. (A government website indicates that generally, individuals “in possession of a firearm need a license even if they are not the owner and never handle the firearm.”) License holders must first complete government paperwork, and pass a background check and the mandatory firearm training course; those who wish to possess restricted firearms must also pass the additional Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course. Part of the licensing background check includes an assessment to determine whether the applicant, “within the previous five years,” has been convicted of any of the designated offenses, has been treated for any mental illness associated with actual or threatened violence, or has a “history of behavior” that includes violence, or threatened or attempted violence.

    Restricted and prohibited handguns must be registered with the government. Restricted and prohibited firearms must be stored using a secure locking device so the gun cannot be fired and locked in a “cabinet, container or room that is difficult to break into” or kept locked in a vault, safe or room “that was built or modified specifically to store firearms safely.” A Canadian news source summed up this prohibitive regulatory regime by noting that the “majority of Canadians don’t meet requirements to legally own a handgun.”

    Nonetheless, gun control groups in Canada continue to press for ever more prohibitions, including the elimination of private ownership of handguns. Late last year, Heidi Rathjen, a spokesperson for anti-gun group PolySeSouvient, told a source that, “Saying you don’t want criminals to have handguns or assault weapons is not saying much. The point is we don’t want any Canadians to have handguns and assault weapons.

    In a fundraising letter last fall tied to the Canadian Coalition for Gun Control, this group boasted that “[w]e managed to get some amendments” to a pending gun control bill, Bill C-71, before adding that the group has now “brought a ban on handguns and assault weapons within our reach… The time has come to ban handguns and military assault weapons in Canada.”

    What is particularly shocking is the letter’s unequivocal emphasis on the need to “stem the proliferation” of legally owned guns: “There are now nearly one million handguns legally owned in Canada, which is more than double the number from 10 years ago … In another ten years there will be almost 2 million. Unless we take action.”

    It’s possible the letter is simply the usual inflated and over-the-top hyperbole common to many fundraising solicitations. The letter certainly contains a number of other questionable statements, implying, for example, that lawfully owned guns are behind a “42 percent” spike in “firearm related crimes… between 2013 and 2017.” According to Statistics Canada, though, the “total firearm-related violent crime” rate back in 2009 exceeded the annual rate for each year from 2010 to 2016 (incidentally, the same trend appears for just handgun-related rates). Another allegation in the letter, “Military weapons such as the AR-15… are sold to civilians in Canada” overlooks the fact that AR-15s are ordinary and popular semiautomatic rifles used for sporting purposes, and are comprehensively regulated through Canada’s firearm licensing and registration laws.

    The government’s own “engagement paper” (Reducing Violent Crime: A Dialogue on Handguns and Assault Weapons), issued as part of Mr. Blair’s public consultation process on possible gun bans, is clear that legally owned guns and law-abiding gun owners aren’t the problem. “The vast majority of owners of handguns and of other firearms in Canada lawfully abide by requirements, and most gun crimes are not committed with legally-owned firearms.” Regarding the feasibility and effectiveness of gun bans, the paper concludes such bans are ineffective and unlikely to produce the expected public safety benefits. “In all cases the data does not conclusively demonstrate that these handgun or assault weapon bans have led to reductions in gun violence, though some studies drew other conclusions. The variation in study results reflects the fact that patterns of gun violence are influenced by many factors and the impact cannot be attributed to one factor.”

    Gun control advocate Rathjen has expressed her surprise at “how strong the gun lobby is in Canada,” as federal lawmakers have “drowned in letters and emails against gun control.” What Ms. Rathjen fails to appreciate is that opposition to the bans actually includes elected officials, law enforcement professionals, and thousands of ordinary Canadians who rightly view any new firearm prohibitions as pointless and ineffective measures that punitively burden law abiding citizens.
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  2. meanstreak

    meanstreak .30-06 Supporter

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    We can only hope enough of our neighbors realize what the government is up to and put in more friendly officials at the ballot box.

    I'm sure if Trudeau had his way there would be not ballot box in the future. These are, imho nothing but power grabs. Take away the people's arms and make them subjects.
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  3. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    @cmcdonald

    We haven't forgotten about our northern brothers.
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  4. fellmann

    fellmann .270 WIN Supporter

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    Politicians are funny..

    I hope, and think, you will NOT get a ban.. i dont think its possible.. not in your country..

    Here in Sweden, when trying to fight crime and gang shootings in the big cities, politicians invent more stupid restrictions and regulation towards the legal gun owners. Gang shootings in Sweden are done mostly with illegeal weapons ( assault riles and pistols smuggled from eastern europe )

    "oohh another shooting, lets ban pistol grips on hunting rifles because they have that dangerous military look "

    Retards...
  5. Daryll

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    What is it about the name Blair that makes me want to retch....

    B'liar as our version is known over here, is Tony Blair, ex UK Prime Minister who forced our .22 handgun ban through... hes also the one who got us into the Gulf wars because of the "proof of WMDs"...
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  6. fellmann

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    You have a .22 handgun ban ? Not even target shooting / compete ?

    Yeah.. those WMD's :) Tony B Liar was one of many.. liars.. lol
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  7. fellmann

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    I learned a new word: Retch :)
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  8. Daryll

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    Yep, All handguns, as you would know them, from .22rf upwards are banned in mainland UK. Northern Ireland can still have theirs... surprisingly, considering the troubles they've had over there.

    When they banned handguns after the Dunblane massacre, they had to define a handgun, so they said anything with a barrel under 12 inches, and an overall length of less than 24 inches was banned.

    ... so we can have these...

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    Semi-autos can only be .22rf, but revolvers can be any calibre... either .38/.357, .44, .45, and the new Rhinos also come in 9mm
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  9. cmcdonald

    cmcdonald Forum Moderator Staff Member Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Anti-gunners and gun grabbers all espouse the same crap no matter what country they’re from.

    What makes it worse is when you have socialists and/or globalists in power. Our PM Trudeau is a one trick pony and it is to impress the UN and globalist agendas in the EU. He and his agenda are downright treasonous if you ask me. He’s got no problem signing over our sovereignty over to the UN; which to the unaware, naive and amateur socialist might seem innocuous enough. However, with respect to small arms in the hands of the masses worldwide they (UN) have but one objective...disarmament. Period.

    Though I don’t foresee a total ban on firearms in the near future, that is the goal.

    I also don’t foresee a ban on handguns coming right now either. I think they’re using it as a pre-election ploy to attract more of the vote from the inner city folks and SJW’s who would typically vote even further left. If Turdo were to get another term, it is possible he’d enact a handgun ban to impress his UN masters.

    Fortunately he’s lost some of his shine and his socks are looking a little dirtier these days as the faithful are getting some hard lessons in what happens when you elect a never worked a day trust fund baby, arrogant, virtue-signalling, empty headed, drama teacher to run the country. He’s a disgusting hypocrite and I can only hope he is fully exposed for what he really is.

    On the matter of private ownership of firearms, we can never rest. The anti-gunners won’t rest, they’ll never be satisfied until we are all disarmed.
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  10. cmcdonald

    cmcdonald Forum Moderator Staff Member Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    And I’ll add this...with all due respect to Ms. Rathjen who is herself a survivor of a mass shooting, and as such her point of view is tragically and permanently altered. As a human being I can empathize with her experience and understand the ferver of her actions and can appreciate the conviction she feels.

    However, in a civilized society that is governed by the rule of law and yes “science” as it’s guide (she has been quoted as saying in other articles that gun control is science and its effects are measurable) you must look at all sides of an argument. Each must be weighed on their own merits and then weighed against each other. When you do this with gun control in its current form, and in the methods they wish to implement, it does not hold up.

    The much disputed benefits of gun control do not outweigh the negative impact that it has on not only individuals but on individual liberty at large and on the oft small to medium size businesses that derive their living from the firearm trade. These FACTS are indisputable and are indeed measurable.

    I’ll finish with this...an illusion of safety to make a few individuals feel safer is ridiculous. The sad fact is that these genuinely affected people are resorting to quoting bogus statistics and figures and in some cases spewing outright lies to further their cause. Most of these people are also unwittingly being used to further the global disarmament agenda.

    No one has to have firearms in their homes, you are welcome to boycott them and not purchase or own them. Even an idiot like the one in Water Monkeys recent thread of the “Oregon Semi Auto Voter Ban” know that criminals don’t obey the law and will never surrender their guns. Gun control only works once you figure out how to get the outlaws on the inside of the law.

    Good luck with that.
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  11. meanstreak

    meanstreak .30-06 Supporter

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    I take a simplified approach to gun control. The left, wherever they are, have an agenda. The agenda is power and absolute control over people everywhere. Their rhetoric is just that, rhetoric aimed to convince as many as they can that gun control is needed to prevent crime, when in fact the ultimate objective is confiscation.
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