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Discussion in 'Tactical And Home Defense' started by Tom396, Jan 20, 2019.

  1. Mossbergermeister

    Mossbergermeister .410

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    Don't misunderstand, I didn't mean that I wouldn't miss because the spread compensates for poor aim, merely that I wouldn't miss because I would be in such close proximity that the only way I could miss is to not point the gun at the attacker.

    My home isn't very big and the layout begets a large number of chokepoints, ergo any confrontation with an attacker is likely going to be at extremely close range, (i.e. somewhere between 2 and 5 yards) making it rather difficult to miss.

    To provide a realistic scenario of a Home Invasion would be as follows;

    • I'm on the second floor in my bedroom or bathroom with the door closed and most likely locked.
    • Intruder(s) bust through my front door, thus causing a ruckus which alerts me to their presence.
    • I grab my firearm and cellphone, (both of which are always close at hand) pointing the gun at the door then calling the police.
    • I hold my position and wait for police to arrive.
    • Should the intruder(s) open or otherwise breach the door, I would open fire.

    I could give other possible scenarios, but that is by far the most likely. Besides, other scenarios would amount to mere variations in which I'm in some other room or between rooms, with the only notable difference being me shutting myself in the nearest room or an immediate confrontation in which the procedure of calling the police is shuffled with opening fire, while other sequences such as lying in wait are obviously omitted.
  2. Yacol J

    Yacol J .270 WIN

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    I own, use, and or carry everything from .380 to 12 gauge. Home = shotgun. Out and about I carry .40, .38 special, or .380, depending on if I'm in the car, or walking, and how many layers of clothes I have on and other variables. If I wear more clothes, I can carry a bigger gun. Also .380 from what I know. Im no expert. It doesn't like a lot of layers, so if I must shoot through more layers I carry a bigger round. I live in Chicago btw. We wear more clothes in the winter. Most people do. Long story short, home = shotgun, 00 buck.
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  3. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ 12g Supporter

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    Would someone with only five or 10 shots in their gun take the risk to fire a warning shot?

    Or just go for the kill?

    If I can make it sound like World War 3 without actually killing anyone isn't that preferable?

    I figure that I should be allowed to have enough self defense ammunition to fire several dozen warning shots, without reloading, just in case I lose my senses and don't want to kill the nice people attacking me.
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  4. MikeD

    MikeD I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Warning shots are illegal in many places. In order to use deadly force you must feel your life is in iminent danger. If you have the luxury of a warning shot, you obviously are not in iminent danger.

    First goal is to survive the encounter.
    Second goal is to survive criminal courtroom.
    Third goal is to survive the civil courtroom.
  5. meanstreak

    meanstreak .30-06 Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    I think of this a lot. The fact is, until the time comes I'm not sure what will happen. My girlfriend and I talk about the what if, but there could be variables that affect that. I hope I never have to find out, but on the other hand I try to stay mentally prepared.

    Oh, btw, no warning shot from me.
  6. Scoop

    Scoop .30-06

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    In TN "warning shots" are no-go. You are criminally and civilly responsible for every round you fire and the injury or damage it causes.

    If you fire any shot outside of a hunting or range environment, you probably will be introduced to the legal system.

    If you righteously and justifiably shoot and kill person you can win the defense of that action [perhaps]. But if that righteous bullet goes through the body and kills an innocent person also, you are liable for that death. One bullet could result in two different outcomes.
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  7. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ 12g Supporter

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    I was being silly.

    If I miss, it was a "warning shot."

    LOL
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  8. Scoop

    Scoop .30-06

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    Ok... That is funny. But I never imagined you missing. You should let someone else steal that joke. Or auction it off.
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  9. Bobster

    Bobster .30-06 Supporter

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    Here in FL, Castle Doctrine=NO warning shot... That said, perp surrenders willingly and is NOT armed, cuffs and ties will be applied and police will be called. Perp points anything that looks like a weapon or rushes towards me then shots will be fired. Weapon depends on the room I am in and the scenario. I also hope to never perform the scenario of shooting back although it is practiced both mentally and physically...
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  10. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ 12g Supporter

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    I wish I was that confident in my own aim.

    OK, I have no confidence problem if holding the coach gun or the 500, but I'm not so good with pistols.
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  11. Yacol J

    Yacol J .270 WIN

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    In Illinois, warning shots are a no go too. Besides in Chicago warning shots come by way of mouth. Anything after that in self defense is a definite go. Bad guys don't do bad things. That's how you get shot .
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2019
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