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Home defense Buck/Slug vs Shot

Discussion in 'Ammunition' started by Brog, Jan 10, 2021.

  1. Brog

    Brog Copper BB

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    I live in an apartment currently and the longest sightline is about 36'. I have neighbors on 3 of the 4 sides and below, I'm on top floor. I have a Mav 88 for home defense. My question is what you would recommend for ammo choice? I have 00 Buck, Slugs, mini shells and 7.5 shot. I know 00Buck is the standard for self defense and its what I've always loaded, but I feel like it's too much for home defense in my case. In your opinion, Is the 7.5 shot sufficient in this case for home/apartment defense? I appreciate your input. Thx.
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  2. Ernst

    Ernst 20g Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    There is a good thread you should review which details your question.

    I don't want to shoot through my house and into my neighbors' so which shotgun ammo?
    Discussion in 'Ammunition' started by OrangeCountyGreg, Apr 5, 2020.
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  3. Brog

    Brog Copper BB

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    Ahh, I searched and somehow missed that. Thanks.
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  4. Rodburner

    Rodburner .270 WIN

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    Welcome from another new guy. I do not envy your predicament. Most newer construction apartment walls around here in western Washington are 2x6 top and bottom plates with staggered 2x4s with insulation in between and sheathed with sheet rock. Everything I’ve shot out of my Shockwave from 15’ will penetrate that, including, most times the wad. With a full 36’ shot, you are still gonna penetrate at least some of those pellets I think. Older buildings have lath and plaster which would help and converted commercial spaces are many times, brick. It’s seems like your best option would be to let the perp stop them with his chest. Sorry. I did like the suggestion to bolster your most likely shooting alley with bookshelves, with books of course or other solid furniture.
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  5. meanstreak

    meanstreak .30-06 Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Ammo is scarce in many places right now, but I would try to find something in the #3 or #4. I would think that would work for you.
  6. Elbert Garrett

    Elbert Garrett .30-06 Supporter

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    Birdshot is better than a sharp stick and it`s effective in close quarters especially when you put multiple loads on target. In an ideal world I would run a #3 or #4 buckshot but like Meanstreak mentioned ammo is scarce, so grab up what you can find. Just before the shelves emptied out at Wally World I picked up some Federal 2 3/4" 4 shot heavy field load, it patterned 9.5" at 21ft and 6.5" at 14ft, that`ll knock the hide off of `em! Try several loads on paper and see what patterns best for your situation...

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  7. MikeD

    MikeD I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    You are responsible for every pellet that leaves the gun. Both slugs and buck will penetrate bad guys and walls. Knowing that, shoot what you are comfortable with.
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  8. Ernst

    Ernst 20g Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    The general rule of thumb on shot expansion is one inch of spread per yard from the muzzle. A majority of HD engagements are in the 2 to 6 yard range from the muzzle. Bottomline, for safety of all, is positive threat identification and a well placed shot.

    If your unsure, probably better to barricade yourself in a room and call 911. If a known intruder opens the door it hard to miss the target from your barricaded position.

    Regards
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  9. Tom396

    Tom396 .30-06

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    #4 shot (not #4 buckshot) seems like a reasonable compromise, given you are in an apartment building. But unfortunately, the physics are that anything that will reliably penetrate the bad guy will also penetrate walls. And, anything that will not penetrate walls will not reliably penetrate bad guys either. Take care. Tom Worthington
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