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Question Of The Month. (April 2018)

Discussion in 'Question of the Month' started by carbinemike, Apr 1, 2018.

  1. Scoop

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    It's April of 2021. Division in the U.S. has been worsening by the year. The republicans and democrats declare war on each other.

    How would such a civil way play out?

    The Rs would control most of the military machinery, probably the deciding factor. Ds would revert mostly to sabotage and make it very hard to maneuver and refuel after massive damage to infrastructure. Battles would probably become localized. The map would be redrawn by natural boundaries of terrain, water, natural resources with rubber-band borders for years. Rs would control most area. Ds would have enclaves taken by force or treaty.

    How long would it last?

    4 years 3 months and 7 days minimum. Max about 15 years 10 months and 22 days.

    Who would win?

    Both sides would win some controlled territory and some areas will be disputed forever.

    What would become of you?

    Most likely I'll die of old age, but I'd do my best to end my days as a double agent or spy or assassin working against the Ds. Firearms or aircraft will be involved.

    I'm looking forward to it.

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  2. meanstreak

    meanstreak .30-06 Supporter

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    Communes would be set up. People with varying skills that they can offer to one another. I might not be able to do some things needed, but can make up for it with other skills that could be of use.

    The main thing is to think and be prepared for the what if when the time comes. Hopefully that time will never come.It's like needing a gun and not having one, or having one and never needing it.
  3. Bobster

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    Dare I say that some aspects of The Walking Dead and/or FTWD may apply. Like shortages of food, water, fuel, ammo and medicine. I do not believe there will be people walking around looking around for survivors to join up with. I do think there will be a lot of revenge killing... :sniper:
  4. zzrguy

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    The younger generation is weak but they have the numbers they are also cowards they are afraid to show their face which gives them the sense of being powerful. Antifa attacks in numbers but if you put down the right people they fold like a cheap suit. If it's a shoot war the right will win as long as the military stays constitutional.
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  5. CaddmannQ

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    I just do not see this coming down to a shooting War ever, guys. The left cannot win a hot shooting war, and their only chance is to disarm everyone before it begins. We're not going to give them that chance ever!

    The only thing they know about war and guns is what they've seen in the movies, which is about 95% wrong.

    Hell most of them probably can't change a flat tire.

    This is going to be a war of the minds and not of bullets. It's going to be a war of psychology and a war for intellectual and financial resources.

    How I see it coming down is that everybody's money gets hacked electronically & we all end up on government welfare because now everyone without hard currency is technically broke.

    If they can steal everyone's money, they can force everyone into such a society.
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  6. Bobster

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    Not if we are using ammo as currency! :) ;) Lead will become a precious metal! :cool:
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  7. meanstreak

    meanstreak .30-06 Supporter

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    Lead, copper, and brass will all be precious. And liquor.
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  8. Water Monkey

    Water Monkey The man, the myth, the monkey Forum Moderator Supporter

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    And toilette paper.
  9. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Not a call to civil war but a call for a peaceful split.

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  10. oli700

    oli700 12g Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Its tough to think about shooting at countrymen .......but , foreign and domestic . I know what side I am on, I seriously hope that extreme left society doesn't start no shit.....they already want everything . If they actually try to come for it , there will be a blood bath. The last one still holds the record for dead Americans. Imagine now......smokeless powder and all. If society goes sideways , lawless battling and survival .....I'll gladly hang anyone who comes at me or mine ......I would be as savage as possible, hope I make it through at least one mag change.
  11. meanstreak

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    If people have any doubt about what is going on one only has to look at what is happening on our university campuses. Conservatives are not allowed to speak in many instances. It they are allowed there are riots on campus, and yet the administrations can't, or won't stop the riots. It's easier to just not allow the speaker to have their say. Professors can say and do anything as long as it complies with the left narrative without fear of repercussions.

    Now this has moved down the ladder to include high schools and even middle schools and lower in some instances. We have an open resistance to our duly elected president, led by the media and the embedded liberals left over from the previous administration.

    For the first time in history we have a past president openly opposing the newly elected president on the world stage. The chaos and turmoil being created every day by the left is deafening and distracting.

    Our president goes about his business with a purpose in mind. To create jobs, let people keep more of what they make, and try to clean up the foreign policies that have festered for decades. He is not kicking the can down the road, but rather kicking ass.
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  12. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Forum Moderator

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    This link is going to reinforce what you mentioned about schools meanstreak.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/2...-him-for-visiting-gun-range-with-his-dad.html

    In a statement to The Daily Wire, Kashuv said he was called out of class at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and told to see the security resource officer whom he identified as “Mr. Greenleaf." Multiple reports from around the time of the Feb. 14 shooting identify Kelvin Greenleaf as a “civilian security monitor” or a “security specialist” at the school.
    First, they began berating my tweet, although neither of them had read it; then they began aggressively asking questions about who I went to the range with, whose gun we used, about my father, etc. They were incredibly condescending and rude,” Kashuv said.
    At that point, Kashuv claims, a Broward County sheriff’s officer joined them, “and began asking me the same questions again.” Kashuv said the officers declined to let him record the interview, but told him he hadn’t done anything wrong.
    “I asked why I was there,” Kashuv said. “One said, ‘Don’t get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?’“ The teen also said that officers referred to him as “the pro-Second Amendment kid.”

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    Anyone want to make a bet with me which students were complaining?
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  13. meanstreak

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    One would expect such actions in Russia, China, or Nazi Germany, not in America. I'd bet his every word and action was being recorded by the "authorities" for possible use against him at a later time. No parent with him, no attorney with him. What the hell ?
  14. John A.

    John A. I'm "THAT" guy Staff Member Global Moderator Forum Moderator

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    That's what I was thinking.

    I wish it were me they were questioning rather than him.

    I would've put on my big boy pants for that shit.
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  15. CaddmannQ

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    There's a big stink here because some Middle Eastern woman who was teaching at our local University called Barbara Bush a racist on the eve of her funeral and it elicited quite an outcry. She tried to hide behind her professorial tenure as an instructor of literature at csuf.

    I mean this fat middle-aged cow literally got on the internet and posted (approximately) "boo hoo you can't fire me because I'm a professor and I have tenure and I make $100,000 a year."

    The university did not fire her but there was so much backlash on social media that she has basically closed down her Twitter and fled the country.

    The University people say her leave of absence was pre-planned. I think they are avoiding multimillion-dollar lawsuits by letting her get away with it, because all this woman has to do is Shout: female! minority! racist! lesbian! Hate speech! And this will turn into a 10 million dollar lawsuit.

    Evidently she is a American born child of immigrants. Now she is back in the Middle East where she should stay. I hope her parents are suitably embarrassed by her behavior. They probably suffered greatly to get to this country, and I feel sorry for the way their daughter turned out.
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  16. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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  17. Bobster

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    This article at Townhall: "7 Forces Driving America Toward Civil War" LINK, mirrors what I think about from time to time. This is worst case scenario type of shit... I may not totally agree with some of the points made in the article but I do agree with the last point quoted below...

    "Gun Grabbing: Liberals have fallen in love with the idea of ignoring the 2nd Amendment and confiscating all firearms. The logistics of doing this in a nation with hundreds of millions of guns (many of which are off the books) when many police departments and tens of millions of Americans would not cooperate is seldom discussed. Another thing that seldom seems brought up is that large numbers of conservatives would see this as a prelude to the government’s use of force against the citizenry. When it is discussed on the Left, there seems to be an assumption that lone resisters might get into firefights with dozens of police or soldiers, as opposed to ganging up with other formerly law-abiding Americans to waylay gun confiscators, politicians and anti-gun activists at THEIR HOMES in guerrilla actions that would be silently applauded and supported by hundreds of millions of Americans concerned about their freedom. Confiscating guns is a dangerous and stupid idea that could in and of itself end our republic if a serious attempt were ever made to implement it."
  18. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    One thing I have heard over and over from liberals when it is brought up that the 2nd Amendment provides citizens to fight a tyrannical government is that the US military is to strong to fight with rifles. They seem to actually think the military would turn on the citizenry and slaughter them. Some would but I think most would uphold their oath to defend the Constitution. The liberals, who never learn from history, also seem to forget the Vietnamese and Afghani's.
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  19. John A.

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    I do agree that it would be rather futile to try to fight the armed forces face to face. Close air support being the major factor there.

    But you don't have to defeat the entire army.

    You would do better swooping in and defeating those giving the unconstitutional orders in the first place. Then once back in control, military tribunals for the domestic traitors in a very public manner involving gallows and firing squads.

    That's about all I'm going to say about that.
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  20. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    Here is another one I just saw. This topic is more mainstream than 10 years ago. It was written by John Hawkins on Townhall

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