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Trudolph Liberals Ban Legal Handgun Imports

Lawyers will give up when the money runs out. If the cash is flowing in, the paperwork will continue to flow out.
 
The debate resumes.


Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security (SECU)
44th Parliament, 1st Session


Room 410, Wellington Building, 19
Meeting 57Tuesday, February 14, 2023, 3:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m.
7 Sparks Street
Webcast

Effects of the withdrawn amendments (G-4 and G-46) to Bill C-21, An Act to amend certain Acts and to make certain consequential amendments (firearms)
Witnesses Amended

3:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m.
Centre culturel islamique de Québec
• Boufeldja Benabdallah, Spokesman

PolySeSouvient
• Heidi Rathjen, Coordinator
• Nathalie Provost, Spokesperson
4:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m.

As an individual
• Dr. Caillin Langmann, Assistant Clinical Professor, Department of Medicine, McMaster University (by videoconference)
• Jim Shockey, Guide Outfitter (by videoconference)Amended
Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters
• Mark Ryckman, Manager of Policy




Watch on ParlVu https://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/Harmony/en/PowerBrowser/PowerBrowserV2?fk=12050027
 

If Liberals get the chance, they'll do it again...It's what they ALWAYS do.​

Member of Parliament for Lakeland, Alberta, @shannonstubbsmp, says the Liberal government will be back to try and ban long guns again. Instead of going after criminals and gangs, Liberals target law abiding firearms owners, sport shooters, and hunters. We need to #ScrapC21 Shannon Stubbs is a gun owner and has been a great advocate for our community in the House of Commons. Go Subscribe to her channel and tell her what you think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fgay...
 
The Trudeau liberals & their Anti gun wackos have no demonstrably evidence against Firearm owners in Canada, which results in them having to result to unethical behaviors. Like ignoring their own commissioned study because it doesn't meet the "narrative" of the unelected anti gun groups

Engagement Summary Report - Reducing Violent Crime: A Dialogue on Handguns and Assault-Style Firearms​

Engagement Summary Report - Reducing Violent Crime: A Dialogue on Handguns and Assault-Style Firearms

Engagement Summary Report - Reducing Violent Crime: A Dialogue on Handguns and Assault-Style Firearms
www.publicsafety.gc.ca www.publicsafety.gc.ca

 

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1ABNDT said:
The Trudeau liberals & their Anti gun wackos have no demonstrably evidence against Firearm owners in Canada, which results in them having to result to unethical behaviors. Like ignoring their own commissioned study because it doesn't meet the "narrative" of the unelected anti gun groups
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While I agree with the sentiment and share your frustration it is my opinion that anti-gun groups give the government one thing and one thing only...someone to blame. Let me explain, groups like Poly SeSouvient and the even more misinformed and outright devious Doctors group serve to fill the roll of "the public that is crying out for stricter gun control". They provide the necessary cover for politicians who subscribe to radical, civil disarmament ideology. It is a well known fact that there is a global push for civil disarmament led by the UN. They call it "reducing small arms proliferation", with the stated goal of only government agencies, law enforcement and military possessing anything resembling a firearm for anything other than sustenance hunting. I would expect that any list of "approved firearms" would be small indeed.

Years ago I thought these politicians were just dumb, ass-clowns who didn't know one end of anything from another which in many circumstances is probably true. We get all distracted over some politician who doesn't know squat about guns, saying stupid things about guns and figure that's why they make such bad decisions. It's not. Guns like other precision instruments are often a mystery to many people. Whatever. It doesn't matter because in the end it's all semantics. It matters not whether it's a 7.62x39 or a forward grip or semi-automatic action...these things don't matter one little bit when the end goal is to get as close to no guns in civilian hands as is humanly possible.

That is the end goal. The rest is just a game.
 
cmcdonald said:
While I agree with the sentiment and share your frustration it is my opinion that anti-gun groups give the government one thing and one thing only...someone to blame. Let me explain, groups like Poly SeSouvient and the even more misinformed and outright devious Doctors group serve to fill the roll of "the public that is crying out for stricter gun control". They provide the necessary cover for politicians who subscribe to radical, civil disarmament ideology. It is a well known fact that there is a global push for civil disarmament led by the UN. They call it "reducing small arms proliferation", with the stated goal of only government agencies, law enforcement and military possessing anything resembling a firearm for anything other than sustenance hunting. I would expect that any list of "approved firearms" would be small indeed.

Years ago I thought these politicians were just dumb, ass-clowns who didn't know one end of anything from another which in many circumstances is probably true. We get all distracted over some politician who doesn't know squat about guns, saying stupid things about guns and figure that's why they make such bad decisions. It's not. Guns like other precision instruments are often a mystery to many people. Whatever. It doesn't matter because in the end it's all semantics. It matters not whether it's a 7.62x39 or a forward grip or semi-automatic action...these things don't matter one little bit when the end goal is to get as close to no guns in civilian hands as is humanly possible.

That is the end goal. The rest is just a game
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Agreed.

Leading Firearms Stats Expert to Liberals: "This Doesn't Make Sense"


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"Bans of military-appearing firearms, semiautomatic rifles and handguns, short barrel handguns and Saturday night specials in the 1990s has resulted in no associated reduction in homicide rates."


Engagement Summary Report - Reducing Violent Crime: A Dialogue on Handguns and Assault-Style Firearms https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/2019-rdcng-vlnt-crm-dlg/index-en.aspx

Read Dr. Langmann's paper submitted to SECU: https://www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Co...nCaillin-e.pdf
Suicide, firearms, and legislation: A review of the Canadian evidence. (2021):

Suicide, firearms, and legislation: A review of the Canadian evidence - McMaster Experts

experts.mcmaster.ca experts.mcmaster.ca



Assault-style firearms are not the problem,
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2022001/article/00009-eng.htm

violent criminals are. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-005-x/2022001/article/00002-eng.htm

WHAT FIREARMS ARE REASONABLE AND PROPORTIONATE FOR HUNTING IN CANADA AN EXAMINATION OF PREVIOUSLY NON-RESTRICTED FIREARMS PROHIBITED UNDER SOR/2020-96 https://www.ofah.org/insider/wp-con...Firearms_Affidavidt_Report_Public_FINAL-1.pdf
 
1ABNDT said:
Agreed.

Leading Firearms Stats Expert to Liberals: "This Doesn't Make Sense"


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I keep hearing people who position themselves on the left of the political and social spectrum going on about cognitive dissonance. In particular that Conservative or people leaning to the right are suffering from cognitive dissonance, with respect to just about every traditional, societal construct you can name. I won't get into all of that.

But, for those that have continued to subscribe to the belief that gun control is more effective at reducing crime than it is intrusive to individual rights or is more beneficial to harm reduction than it is to restricting a person's ability to defend or feed themselves will have had to consistently reject the facts on the matter time and time again.

So, I believe there are two groups in the pro-gun control camp, one group is the rabid, ideologues who just want to ban all firearms if it were possible. The other group are the ones suffering from their own cognitive dissonance as they reject the volumes upon volumes of hard evidence and peer reviewed research that shows gun control is largely ineffective by any measure because that evidence does not line up with their emotional response...the visceral fear and revulsion they feel toward guns. Which is, in itself a fallacy based on hyperbole, misinformation, the torturing of data and the rotten and stinking agenda being fed to the masses by those in the first group.

And the key to all of this is what continues to drive the gun control debate, it's what I said above...emotions. It is an emotion based movement that relies on suckering people with sob stories and in many cases...using the very real pain of the victims of CRIME (not just guns) to elicit the sympathy and support of the public.

www.britannica.com

Cognitive dissonance | Definition & Facts

Cognitive dissonance, the mental conflict that occurs when beliefs or assumptions are contradicted by new information.
www.britannica.com www.britannica.com
 
cmcdonald said:
…I believe there are two groups in the pro-gun control camp, one group is the rabid, ideologues who just want to ban all firearms if it were possible. The other group are the ones suffering from their own cognitive dissonance as they reject the volumes upon volumes of hard evidence and peer reviewed research that shows gun control is largely ineffective…
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It is all about cowardice and Fear.

The common woke people have been trained to feel fear at the least uncertainty or the instant some (effective cultural) boogie-man is mentioned.

BUT Nobody ever trained them in how to be brave. Daily, they are trained to fear the gun. Hackers. Balloons. Their neighbor. Whatever…

Too many fearful and unhappy spouses chased away their partner, from fear of suffering more unhappiness. They doomed their kids to a life of fear. When parents run from each other, the kids don’t know who to fear or why. Fear rules them.

All those kids shooting each other in West Fresno, Chicago or Harlem: they are all ruled by fear. They fear each other, and they fear growing up in poverty and subjection. They fear humility. Police. Government. The law.

This is the society of careless murders you get when parents care more about themselves than they do about the children or each other.

Now this gay and careless society is ruining traditional relationships on purpose. They are doing it with the support of our government, whose members often benefit widely from doing this “work”.

Joe Biden wants you to be afraid of his military jets & hand over your guns. The leader of our nation is a fear monger. A war monger. And many other things that should normally condemn a person to severe punishment.

And yet he is the Teflon Don. The slimy guy who nobody will catch.

He’s gonna slip on his own slime, smack his head on the toilet, and put him out of our misery. Or at least, one way or the other, he will not avoid death.

That may be the best we can hope for at this point, so be ready and be brave.

And remember that guys like Trudeau are pissing their pants at the thought that people with guns want to come after them for their crimes.
 
You're very right Cadd. It's sad just how blind people have become to value of a good, stable home with parents that care for each other and their children. It's no coincidence that although the crime rate in Canada has been declining over many years (due to many factors including an aging population and declining birth rate) that in particular violent crime are on a generally steady year over year increase, with some pretty significant jumps some years. Random assaults (mostly tied to eroded mental health supports and opioid addiction) have become common place in the major city centres. It has become a very real problem in the City of Vancouver sparking much debate around police response, mental health and addictions supports as well as the bail system. Most are prolific, repeat offenders with volumes of arrests for petty offences. Police and the public are exasperated. The new mayor has promised a significant number more mental health professionals to hit the streets with police in an effort to reduce the need for violent takedowns of people that really need to be hospitalized and treated rather than jailed.

CaddmannQ said:
And remember that guys like Trudeau are pissing their pants at the thought that people with guns want to come after them for their crimes.
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One guy (active duty Canadian Ranger - Northern volunteer branch of the CAF) already had a run at him a few years ago and brought it to his doorstep. The guy rammed the gates and gained access to the grounds of the official residence. But lucky for the Turd, he and his family weren't / aren't living there due to ongoing restoration work. Only people there were some trades and security.

So yeah, you're probably right. Another reason why they want us all disarmed while they remain protected and armed. And, Trudy is just as slippery as Slo-Joe...nothing sticks to those grease balls.
 
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