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MI Wolves

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Government killing of 8 wolves suggests Upper Peninsula may be overcrowded with wolves


...The animals belonged to two wolf packs, one to the north and another to the southeast of town. That determination was made by the USDA Wildlife Services staffer who tracked them. State wildlife managers contracted with the federal program to handle the problem.

And handle it they did: wolf by wolf, sometimes in town, sometimes not.

“It wasn’t the first time,” said Brian Roell, a wolf specialist with the Michigan Department of Natural Resources.” This kind of stuff has been done before.”

By that, he means 74 wolves have been exterminated in Michigan to date. Twenty-seven were because of human safety concerns; another 47 because of livestock depredation concerns....
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For years the State has been trying to increase the wolf population. (Something I've been against since day one. ) If any of us had tried to shoot one for our own safety we be hung out to dry but I guess it's OK for the gov to come in and do it for us.
 
MikeD said:
If any of us had tried to shoot one for our own safety we be hung out to dry .
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thats hard to believe, you can shoot another person for your own safety.
 
You could probably get away with it if it was actively attacking you. :)
 
I love wolves. They're awesome creatures. Why couldn't they just relocate them? Shame on you Uncle Sam....
 
we have too many wolves here now in north idaho. we now have an annual hunt. some seasons they don't, depends on how many are in the area.

We also have a local business called Wolf people. They have tons of wolf items, pictures, shirts, Indian art depicting wolves. They even have a few wolves that they have there for you to see, they are beautiful animals, but I also understand the need for the local hunts. They are starting to be a problem with the local elk and even some cases of cow's being killed that some are claiming are from the wolves. (not many mind you).
 
knock on wood, wolves and wild hogs have not been a problem for us locally.

yet

I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
 
It’s a two sided coin for me. I agree that if they are coming into human populated areas and causing problems than they need to be run out. Part of the problem is they have lost some of their fear of humans. One of the ways to instill fear is to have the annual hunts.
Depending on harvest rules I am not opposed to the need to instill fear and thin some of the population. This could be the very thing that preserves them, once they learn to say away for the most part people won’t pursue them.

As far as it screwing up hunting well I say tough. Primitive people hunted to sustain life around wolves with sticks and stones for longer than gun powder has invented so if the modern man can’t deal with it than find another hobby .

They make good pets for the right people. It is an honor to gain the trust and love of one. They are highly intelligent and can be scary smart, loyal and protective …..Also thick headed and independent.

This is my Niko he is 80% Grey/Timber.....he turned 10 months old the day I took this picture. It is my new favorite, he was throwing a little fit because I wouldn’t take him for a walk and so he showing off, staking his claim, he’s saying “she’s mine you lazy bastard” :lol: I love that dog!
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Nice pic oli. I love the way he has his paw on her head.
 
Lol, thanks, that’s one of the things they do to each other to show dominance, pecking order or possession. You in turn have to show you dominance to him or they will constantly challenge you. They respect the chain of command and actually need it to be normal. You can have problems with them if you don’t enforce it respectfully. They won’t tolerate being abused so it’s not like you beat them but you are stern and impose your will on them. That day was funny because it was like 'the little guy is growing up' , sorry he’s like my kid and there's nothing like a paw on the head to says "your my bitch" :lol:
 
LOL...

My dog hates it when I put my hand on top of her head. Always moves her head away to try to lick me...lol
 
Nice oli!

He reminds me so much of my boy Buck. He's been gone for some time now, but we always had the back and forth who's is bigger thing goin on. He used to stand up on his back legs and put his front paws on my chest. Looking me straingt in the eyes was his way of saying he was the boss. I really miss that pup...
 
Sniper....my dog Drexler used to do the same thing. However he only was tall enough to look at my neck straight on. I miss him too... :( but still....good memories.

Was he named after Buck, from The Call of the Wild book? That was my favorite book as a kid.
 
Good call rip,

Yes he was named for Jack London's classic. Was one of my favorites growin up and was a natural choice when I ended up with a wolf pup. There's nothin like the bond between a boy and his dog. I'm sure you've got some great memories of your buddy Drexler...
 
I agree with controlled hunts. Its sometimes needed and as Oli pointed out, its entirely possible for them to lose some of the natural fear of humans. It happens with coyotes too and they too become dangerous.

I understand how humans have built and tamed areas that were once part of their natural habitat... but whaddya gonna do? Its done. I'm all for reloacation when its possible, sometimes deterent like less lethal can be used in one form or another. That can re-instill that fear in them without killing. This may not always be possible in some cases I'm sure.

Wolves have been reintroduced in greater numbers in southern ohio too and sightings are becoming more common as well as hybrid crosses I'm told, but with what exactly, I dont know. Whatever it is, I hear theyre curious animals.

I had been workin out of town one winter and my called one evenin and said a coyote had been in the yard, had just walked out of the woods. She looked for pics all over the place to find one it looked like and when she did, it was a pic of a wolf. I cant say for sure her memory and recollection was 100% accurate, but I can only go on what she described and showed me. In any case, the winter is the most desperate time here and when we start seein and hearin predators rather close in our woods.

So, if it comes down to it, if the animal is desperate, injured or cast out of the pack and insist on capitalizing on what it considers an easy meal... whaddya do?
 
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