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2019 House of Representatives Anti Gun Bills (lot's of them)

Discussion in 'Gun Rights, Fights and Rallies' started by carbinemike, Feb 18, 2019.

  1. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    I thought I'd try and capture the idiocy being dropped in DC by the democrats. While I don't see any of these passing a republican controlled senate the democrats have been getting more and more open about their real goals. It's sad how long this post is and I didn't even cover half of the proposed anti gun laws.

    As you read the proposals, ask yourself if passage of the law will help stop crimes or hurt law abiding gunowners. You already know the answer. You are their enemy. Criminals, not so much.

    HR1296. 2019 Assault Weapon Ban. 191 democrats signed onto this.
    The Senate version includes the following in addition to the above:
    HR8. All gun transfers require a back ground check. An interesting item from a judiciary committee on this one...republicans tried to amend it to include requiring law enforcement be notified when a check is rejected. The democrats voted that down as it would include illegal aliens. Since NICS was started the top reason for rejects is 7.8 million for illegal alien status. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...umber-of-illegal-immigrants-tried-to-buy-guns
    HR1112. The no time limit back ground check. Currently if a back ground check raises a flag but is not rejected the FFL can move the sale forward after 3 days. That would be removed. The FBI could take an undetermined time period and the sale could no go through without their permission. The net effect would be a right becoming a permission based privilege.

    HR1297. Reclassify AR/AK pistols. Pistol caliber handguns that can fire armor piercing ammunition will be reclassified to an NFA item.

    HR1263. Reclassify all semi automatics that can accept a box magazine. As above, all semi auto's would become NFA items.

    HR1266. Reclassify 80% lowers as a "gun" requiring background check. Even more vague is the verbiage... “any combination of parts designed or intended for use in converting any device into a firearm and from which a firearm may be readily assembled”
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  2. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    HR8 Background check bill passed a house judiciary committee yesterday. It is called a bi-partisan and that is accurate. 5 rino republicans voted for it. What should have been a defeat by a vote of 19-16 became a 21-14 victory. The republicans can not be trusted. They had 2 years to pass pro gun laws such as nationwide concealed carry and they sat there with their thumbs up their butts.

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  3. John A.

    John A. Unconstitutional laws are not laws. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator

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    That will only work for new firearms built after the law is enacted and signed. I believe that Trump would sign it in a heartbeat as well. Despite that we all know that the worst criminals would ignore the law in the first place.

    Good thing that I already gave all my guns to everyone that I wanted to have them.
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  4. cmcdonald

    cmcdonald Forum Moderator Staff Member Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    @John A. I don’t seem to have received the FN FAL yet, must be in the mail..........
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  5. John A.

    John A. Unconstitutional laws are not laws. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator

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    You mean you didn't already get that?

    Tracking info said it was delivered on Christmas eve. Better do a thorough check around the mailbox. The wind might have blown it over. Check real close in the weeds. It was in a big brown cardboard box. Had the word "SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE" written in big black permanent marker on the front and back of it.
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  6. cmcdonald

    cmcdonald Forum Moderator Staff Member Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    I’ll hafta take a good look around John but I’m pretty sure it ain’t here. Lol!

    Back to the op...I think in light of some Repubs supporting this crap and Trump possibly signing off on it, if it suits his needs at the time; you guys need a third party in the mix or some real strong independents.

    Times may change but generally speaking people don’t. The same nasty traits often come through no matter what stripe you wear. These types of legislation are hyped as public safety and all about protecting the people. But in truth, only a very few in power are actually that naive. Most are not crusaders for justice. They’re power brokers and it’s consolidation of power and neutering their adversaries that they’re really after. Perception of good will is all that’s required it seems and the masses fall for it hook line and sinker....every damn time. You’d think we’d (educated society) know better by now.

    Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice...well you know how this one goes.
  7. John A.

    John A. Unconstitutional laws are not laws. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator

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    I wanted to quote that because there is so much truth in it.
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  8. cmcdonald

    cmcdonald Forum Moderator Staff Member Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    I’m certainly no genius...my wife will confirm this, I can guarantee. :rolleye: But the progressive agenda of the left is blatantly obvious and they as a group, are getting bolder about their true intent. And, it is as plain as the words on this page.

    Here in the north, the anti’s are never satisfied with any progress they make to strip away my rights and way of life. They get one step closer with each new piece of legislation to the ultimate end...total disarmament of the population, except police and military. I hear it said just that plain far too often.

    Politicians play on the fears and sympathies of the masses and feign concern as they weasel their way through the backrooms of power figuring how to best use our fear, anxiety and grief TO THEIR OWN BENEFIT. Yes, they will use the grief and anguish of families to further an agenda that benefits no one but those in power.

    It’s sick. It’s sad. It’s so damn corrupt and bankrupt of morality.
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  9. John A.

    John A. Unconstitutional laws are not laws. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator

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    I just wanted to make note the 8 republican traitors helping HR8 background check succeed.

    Yea R Buchanan, Vern FL 16th
    Yea R Mast, Brian FL 18th
    Yea R Diaz-Balart, Mario FL 25th
    Yea R Upton, Fred MI 6th
    Yea R Smith, Chris NJ 4th
    Yea R King, Pete NY 2nd
    Yea R Fitzpatrick, Brian PA 1st
    Yea R Hurd, Will TX 23rd

    https://1776tv.com/2019/02/democrats-pass-gun-control-bill-in-house/

    After reading the 3 paragraph article in the link above, please go to this one:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/saphr8hr1112hr_20190225.pdf

    The Administration opposes H.R. 8 because it would impose burdensome requirements on certain firearm transactions. H.R. 8 would require that certain transfers, loans, gifts, and sales of firearms be processed by a federally licensed importer, manufacturer, or dealer of firearms. H.R. 8 would therefore impose permanent record-keeping requirements and limitless fees on these everyday transactions. H.R. 8 contains very narrow exemptions from these requirements, and these exemptions would not sufficiently protect the Second Amendment right of individuals to keep and bear arms. For example, unless an exemption applies, both the act of leaving a weapon in the temporary care of a neighbor while traveling and the act of later retrieving that weapon would require processing by a licensed entity under H.R. 8. Also, unless such an exemption applies, domestic violence victims would be prohibited from borrowing a firearm for self- defense without first having the transaction go through such a licensed entity. The extensive regulation required by H.R. 8 is incompatible with the Second Amendment’s guarantee of an individual right to keep arms.

    There is more at the link above, but that's the jist of it.
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  10. Water Monkey

    Water Monkey The man, the myth, the monkey Moderator Supporter

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    @John A. florida has a lot of RINOs.

    Pete king is notorious in NY as an anti gunner. My Rep Zeldin voted no.
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  11. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    PA rep. Brian Fitzpatrick is a rino through and through. He rep's two PA counties that are both suburbs of Philly. The suburbs of Philly and Pittsburgh are loaded with rino's. The people in these areas seem to want republicans that will be fiscally conservative and a libtard on social issues. He is ranked the third most bi-partisan member of the house and is in lockstep with the democrats on gun issues. He is the only republican to get an endorsement from the Gabby Gifford's group. Pathetic.
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  12. CaddmannQ

    CaddmannQ .50 BMG Supporter

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    Did anyone hear Trump comment on these bills?
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  13. meanstreak

    meanstreak .30-06 Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    I would change one thing here. They don't use fear and anxiety, they, with the help of the media create the fear and anxiety. You can add the socialist academics to that as well.
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  14. carbinemike

    carbinemike Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator "Philanthropist"

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    The White House has commented that Trump would veto HR8 or HR1112 if either should somehow get past the Senate.

    The democrats obviously know these bills won't become law. I think they are campaigning for the next election cycle.
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  15. Bobster

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    I will be sure to let my US Senators know where I stand (again and again). I'll also contact the FL ***** (lady nether regions) that voted on it even though I am not a constituent of theirs...

    Mike is correct about the next election cycle. 2020 may make or break this country... :( Keep making/buying ammo, my brothers and sisters!
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