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Another gov. admission that a ban won't work

carbinemike

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A National Institute of Justice memo indicates that they know an "assault weapon" ban won't work. Some interesting items:
1) Mass murders (4+ victims) average 35 victims per year out of 11,000 homicides
2) Most guns used in crimes are obtained via straw purchase or stolen. They combine for 73% of the guns used in crimes.
3) No significant link exists between "assault weapons" and murders
4) Gun buybacks have no affect
5) They know that so many hi cap mags are out there that a ban won't have an affect for generations unless there is a buyback.
So why do they so desperately want a ban? Can there be any other reason than to more greatly control us?

NIJ page for gun violence. I looked around here some. Lot's of interesting stuff. I need to go back tomorrow and read more reports in depth:http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/gun-violence/welcome.htm
NIJ Memo: http://www.wnd.com/files/2013/02/nij-gun-policy-memo.pdf

By Garth Kant

A study by the Department of Justice’s National Institute of Justice has the feds admitting that so-called “assault weapons” are not a major contributor to gun crime.

The study also concluded those weapons are not a major factor in deaths caused by firearms.

The NIJ, the department’s research wing, found an “assault weapons” ban would be ineffective.

“The existing stock of assault weapons is large, undercutting the effectiveness of bans with exemptions,” it said. “Therefore a complete elimination of assault weapons would not have a large impact on gun homicides.”

The report finds no significant link between “assault weapons” and murders.

“Since assault weapons are not a major contributor to U.S. gun homicides and the existing stock of guns is large, an assault weapon ban is unlikely to have an impact on gun violence,” the report said.

The document, titled “Summary of Select Firearm Violence Prevention Strategies,” also sees no epidemic of mass shootings.

“Fatalities from mass shootings (those with 4 or more victims in a particular place and time) account on average for 35 fatalities per year,” the report said.

The report advises a more comprehensive approach.

Read the story in “Shooting Back” The Right and Duty of Self-Defense,” about how a massacre was stopped by a man and his gun.

“Policies that address the larger firearm homicide issue will have a far greater impact even if they do not address the particular issues of mass shootings,” the report said.

The study also found a number of reasons why gun buybacks are ineffective as generally implemented: “1. The buybacks are too small to have an impact. 2. The guns turned in are at low risk of ever being used in a crime. 3. Replacement guns are easily acquired. Unless these three points are overcome, a gun buyback cannot be effective.”

The report, by Greg Ridgeway, deputy director, said restricting large capacity magazines has a “great potential to reduce lethality,” but that would require a massive reduction in the supply.

“In order to have an impact, large capacity magazine regulation needs to sharply curtail their availability to include restrictions on importation, manufacture, sale, and possession. An exemption for previously owned magazines would nearly eliminate any impact. The program would need to be coupled with an extensive buyback of existing large capacity magazines. With an exemption the impact of the restrictions would only be felt when the magazines degrade or when they no longer are compatible with guns in circulation. This would take decades to realize.”

The report undermines most of the talking points by the Obama administration in its pursuit of more limits on guns, ammunition and accessories.

The administration’s campaign was launched following the Newtown, Conn., massacre that killed 20 students and six adults.

The report noted that a 2000 study by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms revealed that 47 percent of crime guns are obtained through a straw purchase, and another 26 percent are stolen.

“These figures indicate informal transfers dominate the crime gun market. A perfect universal background check system can address the gun shows and might deter many unregulated private sellers. However this does not address the largest sources (straw purchase and theft), which would most likely become larger if background checks at gun shows and private sellers were addressed.”
 
We've been saying that a ban won't reduce crime for years, but the sheep seem to eat anything they're fed.

They seem to prefer spoon fed bullshit the best.
 
John A. said:
We've been saying that a ban won't reduce crime for years, but the sheep seem to eat anything they're fed.

They seem to prefer spoon fed bullshit the best.


Our local (cincinnati bell) webpage has been blasting the headline "Over 2,200 guns exempted from gun ban" in an attempt to show that government is not "taking away your guns". More BS...
 
Good post Mike.

Personally I believe gun bans do work, just not for what they say their purpose is.

We all know gun bans will not reduce crime, but it is another step in the right direction if your goal is to criple gun ownership with the ultimate goal of disarming an entire population. Looking at what is happening legislatively and how the verbage has changed and continues to change daily with regards to guns it is amazing to me that so many people* still can't connect the dots.


* By people I do not mean anyone here, just the masses that still honestly believe that these new laws will protect us and the children .
 
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