Joseph Mosser
.22LR
Hey guys. While I waited for my GlockTalk account to be approved, I figured I might as well throw a post out here as well.
So, I am new to handguns, and for my first one, I decided I'd do a project and build one! So, I have what is basically a G17, built on a Polymer80 80% receiver. I completed it with Lonewolf upper and lower kits, a G17 threaded 9mm barrel, and a Brownells stripped Glock slide.
As far as the building process, I think everything went pretty well. Milled out what was required; a few rough edges might have been left, but I think those were worked out after my first few test shots (the slide stuck back for the first few shots, after which it began to function normally). There are only two things that I can think of that didn't go as they should have.
When installing the locking block, it went in very tight, had to use the recommended procedure of prying the sides of the frame slightly to get it in. Even then, I was not able to get it to seat down fully level. You can see that one side is up just noticeably higher than the other.
(You can see the right side of the block, on the left in the photo, is just slightly above the plastic in front of it, whereas the other side is not)
You can also see this looking at it from the muzzle, you can see the slide tipped slightly. But, the slide went on and cycled just fine, so I left it. To remedy this issue, I think I would have to pull the locking block and mill off the offending side bit by bit until it sat down. That's scary to me, but I think I could do it if necessary.
The other issue, one more within my control that I feel very stupid about, is the sights. I purchased some pricey Meprolight adjustable nightsights. I made the very smart decision of trying to drift the rear in without oil. By the time I realized my mistake and that the sights weren't moving any further in, I had already put a slight warp in the seat of the sight. Went in just fine with a drop of oil; stupid! Anyway, due to that warp, the rear sight also is tilted ever so slightly. I thought maybe I could remedy this with zeroing, since they are adjustable, so I left them in. I guess the only way to fix this issue would be replacement.
As to the front sight, I held it straight as best I could and tightened it down, with blue LC on the threads. I don't see any problem there.
Okay, so, at this point, the gun seems to function fine. I have had a few failures of the striker to reset, but I haven't determined if that is an ammo issue or not yet.
However, the problem is keeping rounds on target. As I said, I am new to handguns, and I probably have about 100 rds under my belt, through this gun.
I got the thing laser boresighted, and went to put holes in paper. When I have the gun settled into a bag well, it seems to shoot pretty dead on. But when I stand up and hold the thing, it is all over the place. Random, as in hitting low left corner while aiming at bull, and the next shot being all the way across the target. This is all at about 10 yds. To be fair, they are all within a torso sized target at 10, but I think it should be more precise than that.
Anyway, I know I am very bad as yet with handguns, and need to practice. But I imagine if I was that bad, I would at least see some pattern I could then work to address. But this seems so wild and unpredictable, it makes me suspect something wrong with the weapon. But then I go back to the bag, and it shoots dead on! So, I don't know what to think.
What do you guys think? Are the mechanical things I stated probable causes you think I should address first? I suspect that until I shoot of the bag and it seems fine. Maybe I need to invest in some formal training, so someone who knows what they're doing can tell me what I am doing wrong, and shoot the gun and see what they think of it. I also have a SL TLR - 1s mounted.
Any suggestions are much appreciated. I got my permit to carry earlier this spring and want to carry this gun, but I feel uneasy doing so until I know I can hit what I am aiming at! Thank you!
So, I am new to handguns, and for my first one, I decided I'd do a project and build one! So, I have what is basically a G17, built on a Polymer80 80% receiver. I completed it with Lonewolf upper and lower kits, a G17 threaded 9mm barrel, and a Brownells stripped Glock slide.
As far as the building process, I think everything went pretty well. Milled out what was required; a few rough edges might have been left, but I think those were worked out after my first few test shots (the slide stuck back for the first few shots, after which it began to function normally). There are only two things that I can think of that didn't go as they should have.
When installing the locking block, it went in very tight, had to use the recommended procedure of prying the sides of the frame slightly to get it in. Even then, I was not able to get it to seat down fully level. You can see that one side is up just noticeably higher than the other.
You can also see this looking at it from the muzzle, you can see the slide tipped slightly. But, the slide went on and cycled just fine, so I left it. To remedy this issue, I think I would have to pull the locking block and mill off the offending side bit by bit until it sat down. That's scary to me, but I think I could do it if necessary.
The other issue, one more within my control that I feel very stupid about, is the sights. I purchased some pricey Meprolight adjustable nightsights. I made the very smart decision of trying to drift the rear in without oil. By the time I realized my mistake and that the sights weren't moving any further in, I had already put a slight warp in the seat of the sight. Went in just fine with a drop of oil; stupid! Anyway, due to that warp, the rear sight also is tilted ever so slightly. I thought maybe I could remedy this with zeroing, since they are adjustable, so I left them in. I guess the only way to fix this issue would be replacement.
As to the front sight, I held it straight as best I could and tightened it down, with blue LC on the threads. I don't see any problem there.
Okay, so, at this point, the gun seems to function fine. I have had a few failures of the striker to reset, but I haven't determined if that is an ammo issue or not yet.
However, the problem is keeping rounds on target. As I said, I am new to handguns, and I probably have about 100 rds under my belt, through this gun.
I got the thing laser boresighted, and went to put holes in paper. When I have the gun settled into a bag well, it seems to shoot pretty dead on. But when I stand up and hold the thing, it is all over the place. Random, as in hitting low left corner while aiming at bull, and the next shot being all the way across the target. This is all at about 10 yds. To be fair, they are all within a torso sized target at 10, but I think it should be more precise than that.
Anyway, I know I am very bad as yet with handguns, and need to practice. But I imagine if I was that bad, I would at least see some pattern I could then work to address. But this seems so wild and unpredictable, it makes me suspect something wrong with the weapon. But then I go back to the bag, and it shoots dead on! So, I don't know what to think.
What do you guys think? Are the mechanical things I stated probable causes you think I should address first? I suspect that until I shoot of the bag and it seems fine. Maybe I need to invest in some formal training, so someone who knows what they're doing can tell me what I am doing wrong, and shoot the gun and see what they think of it. I also have a SL TLR - 1s mounted.
Any suggestions are much appreciated. I got my permit to carry earlier this spring and want to carry this gun, but I feel uneasy doing so until I know I can hit what I am aiming at! Thank you!