Ripsnortr
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cbshooter said:Yes, Rip it looks like the same one but I have the electronic keypad. It looks bigger online, lol. I wanted the safe to fit in the closet in MBR and be able to close the sliding door so it is "out of site out of mind" and yes I know that thieves will find it and try to open it but I am going to place it on the left side of the closet where there is an exterior wall. I think the way it is placed makes a difference. In your picture it looks like that there is room to stick a pry bar on the bolt side of the door and there may be enough room and leverage to get a good shot at prying it open. If you turn it 90 degrees to the left they can't get enough leverage because of the wall. There are videos on youtube of guys prying open safes. The first thing they do is shove in over with the door facing up and use 2 pry bars to pry the door open using their body weight as leverage. I am hoping that bolted down ( so they can't flip it on its back) and placing it close to a wall on the left side (no room for leverage) will deter them. It will take them longer than normal to get thru the door of the MBR alone ( because of the way it has been altered) so I am hoping they get scared (run out of time)and get the heck out of dodge. I do live on a dead end street with the houses close togeather and being in Socal all of the kids and stay at home moms are outside alot and will see any activity and call the police. Maybe this is wishful thinking but I think this my best alternative. Questions and responses are welcome. Oh, the safe did arrive and is in tact and I am getting everything togeather to move it in place. And I am sorry that your insurance company did not help as much as they should. I hope you all are getting back to being close to normal.
I looked at the same videos you did and was going to put the safe the way you mentioned, unforunately, I am a big guy (6'4" 245lbs) and I had a hard time fitting between the door and the wall when it was open. I had to rotate it 90 degrees, just for ease of my own access.
The viedos always show two guys working together with the safe on it's back and using their body weight to get leverage. Given that it is bolted to the reenforced framing of the house, and they will not have the best leverage to their advantage my hopes are that they will have already had to work out a few "layers of protection" before even getting to that point and run down their window of oportunity.
It is not the best one out there, but it is better than what I had, and as I think I have beat to death, it is not the only thing protecting them.
The reason I didn't go with the electronic lock is I felt better relying on a mechanical device rather than an electrical one. Just a personal preference. I also like that I can lock the dial from physicaly turning with a key.
Sn3aKyGuY said:I'm with Ripsnortr. The snap-on ones, while providing okay protection, are essentially a large tool box with a basic 2 or 3 point locking mechanism. A rod that goes through the top and bottom, plus a tab that is dependent upon the strength of the metal on the left of the door to secure it. Good to keep kids out, not so much for someone with ambition and a crow bar. Guess I'll be looking around for other options. Just don't want to drop a grand on a huge safe.
Pay now or pay later... I paid later, and then some. Not going to happen to everyone, but this was my turn to be a stastic.