AOW and SBS pics
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The only Serbus (Serbues, Serboos, Serbui) I see in stores around here are going for a premium, closer to $700-$800. Too rich for my blood. I'm actually looking to go SBS with my 590 after the holidays, so I should eventually have something to contribute to this thread...
Itsricmo said:I want to just buy one haha
Are their AOW rifles?
Any Other Weapons are actually classified as NOT in any specific category
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_II_weapons
Very nice on the SBS's...I am jealous.
I had read that unless one is a LEO or it's being procurred for the government, Mossberg doesn't want to bother with regular Joe's acquiring a SBR from them. Any truth in that?
I had read that unless one is a LEO or it's being procurred for the government, Mossberg doesn't want to bother with regular Joe's acquiring a SBR from them. Any truth in that?
There are SBS Mossbergs available at retail.
Not sure if they're purchased from Mossberg pre-configured as an SBS or if the retailer "manufactures" them, but they're out there. Buy one, submit your Form 4, pay your $200 tax stamp, and in 6-8 months it could be yours.
Itsricmo,
A shotgun is classified as an AOW only if it was originally manufactured in a pistol grip only configuration with a short barrel or had an 18" or longer barrel that was later shortened. The reason this is classified as an AOW is because there is no classification for a smoothe bore pistol with a bore diameter greater than .50". A shotgun purchased with a stock, reconfigured with a pistol grip only, and barrel shortened to under 18" is an SBS, not an AOW.
Having a shoulder stock is part of what classifies a rife as a rifle. For this reason, there is no such thing as an AOW rifle. It's either a rifle or an SBR. The closest you'll get in concept is an AR pistol. It must be built from a virgin receiver that has NEVER had a stock attached and must have a pistol buffer tube not capable of accepting a stock. There are .22lr versions that don't need a buffer tube and use a receiver end cap instead. Once you are in posession of this lower receiver set-up, you are legally allowed to purchase and mount an upper with a barrel under 16". According to the BATFE, this configuration is legally classified as a pistol. Of course some states differ in what is allowed, so it's always a good idea to contact your local BATFE office for laws in your area...
Not sure if they're purchased from Mossberg pre-configured as an SBS or if the retailer "manufactures" them, but they're out there. Buy one, submit your Form 4, pay your $200 tax stamp, and in 6-8 months it could be yours.
Itsricmo,
A shotgun is classified as an AOW only if it was originally manufactured in a pistol grip only configuration with a short barrel or had an 18" or longer barrel that was later shortened. The reason this is classified as an AOW is because there is no classification for a smoothe bore pistol with a bore diameter greater than .50". A shotgun purchased with a stock, reconfigured with a pistol grip only, and barrel shortened to under 18" is an SBS, not an AOW.
Having a shoulder stock is part of what classifies a rife as a rifle. For this reason, there is no such thing as an AOW rifle. It's either a rifle or an SBR. The closest you'll get in concept is an AR pistol. It must be built from a virgin receiver that has NEVER had a stock attached and must have a pistol buffer tube not capable of accepting a stock. There are .22lr versions that don't need a buffer tube and use a receiver end cap instead. Once you are in posession of this lower receiver set-up, you are legally allowed to purchase and mount an upper with a barrel under 16". According to the BATFE, this configuration is legally classified as a pistol. Of course some states differ in what is allowed, so it's always a good idea to contact your local BATFE office for laws in your area...
Itsricmo
.30-06
Ahh! Thanks for the clarification LES! I thought there were all different calibers of AOW. I understood the Pistol Grip part of a shotgun, that stuff makes sense. Now, say one buys the Chainsaw mossberg Zombie Slayer, It is manufactured with a Pistol Grip, could one only pay $5 to cut that barrel down making it an AOW?
Nope.
The $5 tax stamp accompanies an ATF Form 4 and is the "transfer" tax for a pre-fab'd AOW. If one already has a PGO shotgun, manufacturing the AOW yourself would first require an approved ATF Form 1 and a $200 tax stamp.
Now if you send your factory PGO shotgun to an FFL who has an SOT (Special Occupational Tax) stamp, they can "manufacture" the AOW for you and transfer it back to you with an approved ATF Form 4 and a $5 tax stamp.
This is, of course, assuming that you are legally allowed to own an AOW in your state...
The $5 tax stamp accompanies an ATF Form 4 and is the "transfer" tax for a pre-fab'd AOW. If one already has a PGO shotgun, manufacturing the AOW yourself would first require an approved ATF Form 1 and a $200 tax stamp.
Now if you send your factory PGO shotgun to an FFL who has an SOT (Special Occupational Tax) stamp, they can "manufacture" the AOW for you and transfer it back to you with an approved ATF Form 4 and a $5 tax stamp.
This is, of course, assuming that you are legally allowed to own an AOW in your state...
Wow, I think that's the most acronyms I've ever typed in a single post... 
KentuckyWindage
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LAZY EYED SNIPER said:Wow, I think that's the most acronyms I've ever typed in a single post...
Itsricmo
.30-06
LAZY EYED SNIPER said:Wow, I think that's the most acronyms I've ever typed in a single post...
hahaha That would be a REALLY confusing post to someone who doesn't know anything about this kinda stuff.. I should show that to my brother and see what he gets of it haah
Anyhow, thanks for the help! I am allowed to own one in PA, however, I think I need a LEO approval in my current county
Haha, nice.
Your County Sheriff's approval and signature is part of the process, but there's a lot more to it. It's a rather involved and lengthy process. The last NFA item I purchased took just over eight months from the time of purchase, to the time I got the approved paperwork back and was able to take it home.
As likely intended, the process itself forces a lot of potential buyers to question whether or not the item is worth the time, effort, and expense. If it's worth it to you, then by all means go for it. After all, we're still well within our rights to do so.
...at least for now...
Your County Sheriff's approval and signature is part of the process, but there's a lot more to it. It's a rather involved and lengthy process. The last NFA item I purchased took just over eight months from the time of purchase, to the time I got the approved paperwork back and was able to take it home.
As likely intended, the process itself forces a lot of potential buyers to question whether or not the item is worth the time, effort, and expense. If it's worth it to you, then by all means go for it. After all, we're still well within our rights to do so.
...at least for now...
Nope, especially not leading up to or during an election year. I've also been told that the worst time to submit NFA paperwork is right after tax season. Seems a lot of folks like using their tax refunds to pay for tax stamps...
