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Discussion in 'Non-Work Safe' started by Rossignol, Dec 17, 2011.

  1. nasa

    nasa .270 WIN

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    I haven't even filed mine yet. Figure I will just about break even.

    It's been awhile since I've had the time to participate on MO due to all the hours I've been putting in on the job.

    This week in in school in Houston to be trained as a radiation safety officer. I didn't realize I needed to be a nuclear physicist for the position. A lot of math involved, most of which I'll almost never use. I've been doing fairly well so for but it reminds me of going back to college when I spent more time doing homework than I did sitting in class. Finally getting into the regulations and transportation.

    My other half kept complaining that she missed me so much even a couple of hours after I had left so today she calls and tells me she is just going past Duncan Oklahoma on her way to Springfield, Mo. to see the grand-kids. Guess when I get home it'll be just me and the bulldogs. Maybe I'll have time to do some of my stuff for a change.

    Still need to check out the Hornady SST rounds in the 835.

    Later
  2. Ripsnortr

    Ripsnortr 20g

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    So this morning I get up early to go work my manditory 8 hours of service for the gun club (I am glad they are enforcing this now, the place was starting to look shameful) and I had to go downstairs to grab my leaf blower. I step off the stairs and realize there is water all over my basement again. Can't be the sumps again, I heard it running as I cam down. To my horror I realize what I am standing in; my septic backed into the house!

    So, I have spent the past few hours in my basement cleaning up the mess, digging up the main tank access and pulling out the blockage, and spraying bleach everywhere. Needless to say I never got to leave for the club.

    I sense a burbon in my future!
  3. ripjack13

    ripjack13 Resident Sawdust Maker Staff Member Administrator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Oh man...that's just shitty. Better make it a double.....
  4. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator Sponsor

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    Uh, yeah. Really.

    Sorry man, That just stinks... and it sux a$$!

    Are we helping yet? :D
  5. Sn3aKyGuY

    Sn3aKyGuY .30-06

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    I told you eating that much cheese fondu was going to come back and bite you! :lol:

    Hope everything is able to be saved. I hate cleaning up my basement when it floods ... add floaters to the situation and I think I'd drop a load.
  6. ripjack13

    ripjack13 Resident Sawdust Maker Staff Member Administrator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Wow...tough crowd.....:)
  7. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Staff Member Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Wow guys really?!

    One of our members is goin through a family crisis and the best you can do is throw toilet humor at him. That's enough of that crap.

    ....... :D
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  8. ripjack13

    ripjack13 Resident Sawdust Maker Staff Member Administrator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    My wife wants to know if you found Mr. Hanky. ;)

    Toilet humor...that's a good one.

    :)
  9. Ripsnortr

    Ripsnortr 20g

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    lol, thanks guys. Made my day to read that stuff this morning.

    On an upswing Jody pulled off a masterful suprise birthday party last night after all that. Went to a bar and friends were there and it made up for the false start on my day. They all chipped in and got me a new camera, a Cannon Powershot SX150 IS and I am enjoying my new coffe mug.

    [​IMG]
  10. nasa

    nasa .270 WIN

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    Yesterday morning I did a little work on the side, got home just before the better half got out of bed. The thought of the check in my wallet had my head swimming in thought of where I was going to spend it. Thinking of an AR, maybe a pair of pistols or a flat screen....

    Got home, took her a cup of coffee, got her up and around. By 10PM we got back home, no weapons or preps. Just 180 feet of bamboo fencing, round up, week killer, bug killer, some plants, new stereo for the Lariat, dinner at a place that serves up wild game, food for the critters, $80 for gas and my $800 had dwindled to $50. Ahhhh. The joys of marriage. Guess I can still buy a little ammo.
  11. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Staff Member Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    AWESOME mug Rip! Happy birthday brother!!!
  12. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Staff Member Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    I feel you pain nasa,

    It's amazing how fast money can disappear...
  13. Ripsnortr

    Ripsnortr 20g

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    Well, I am amazed. I cleaned the basement myself after my insurance company told me that I had a $1000 deductible. They had a company all set up to come out and I had Jody tell them not to bother and I headed down to the basement to take care of the mess myself.

    What I didn't know is Jody told them to assess the cost of doing the job ourselves because if someone was going to get paid for the cleanup, it might as well be us. So, I went about bleaching, mopping, vaccuming, and cleaning up.

    Jody got a call today that they estimated the job at the $55 hourly rate Jody told them I was worth and materials and the total job cost was $2500 and they were sending out a check for $1500!

    I am stoked! Looks like their was a silver lining to the murky waters I spent my weekend wading in!
  14. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Staff Member Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Wow Rip!

    I know the whole ordeal was a lot to digest, but it looks like it all came out in the end... :D


    (see what I did there :lol: )


    .......poop... :lol:
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  15. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator Sponsor

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    I've been distrustful of govt. for some time, yet I've always been among the first to say to wait for the justice system to do its job and I'm very respectful and grateful for LEOs.

    But I feel betrayed recently, and have even less reason than before to have faith in or trust the govt. from top to bottom. From local to state to federal.

    I cant go into too many details but heres whats public information.

    You all know of Ivy havin been injured? It may or may not be known we took in another bird dog, Max, an English Setter.

    Ivy had injured her back (and we finally narrowed it down to her back) almost 2 mos ago. She could hardly get up and get around. She wouldnt eat unless we hand fed her. Ally sat with her daily until it was time for bed to care for her and make sure she was comfortable. I moved her doghouse to my shed just outside my side door so I could be closer to her so I could hear her at night and just keep an eye on her. My shed has electric in it and we ran a heating pad for her, I gave her a deer skin to sleep on and we beddded around the doghouse with straw when it got cold. We prepared special food just for her, always deer meat and chicken, boiled and we kept the broth and from that cooked in some brown rice, plus puppy formula and puppy food. We wanted to keep gettin protien and fat and carbs to her.

    Well, from her inactivity (and she was always lean and thin, rather sinewy cuz she always ran 100 mph ALL DAY LONG) her back end was quite atrophied. She lost not just some weight, but muscle also. I had recently said to a couple folks here that she was finally gettin up and movin again, a good sign cuz we knew if we couldnt bring her back around we'd be puttin her down. But here she was with baby aspirin and joint health supplement of some sort gettin back up and playin again and even jumped into my car a few times a couple weeks ago so I took her out with me to run some errands. She was def makin improvement. I was happy with her as she was even if it meant no more huntin.

    It seems, due to the construction bein done on the sewer lines up the road, someone had reason to be at the end of our dead end road to put a letter in our mailbox to let us know parts of the road would be closed during the days to come. I'm guessing this is who made the call as I havent been told for certain. In any case, someone called the police who in turn called the dog warden. Reason; Because my dogs were obviously being neglected, malnourished and being cruely treated. Two of my dogs were seized that day by the dog warden. I was charged with two counts of animal cruelty which is now bein handled by my lawyer.

    I related the facts to the police when they took me to the station for questioning, along with the standard questions about "any tattoos or scars or other identifyable marks?". I also shared all the details with the dog warden who said "these are your opinions", I said "no, these are the facts, the person who called the police after seein my dogs for 5 minutes or 15 minutes formed a baseless opinion not rooted in fact about the care of my dogs without knowing any of the backstory".

    Regardless, I've been charged and the burden of proof lies with me to prove my innocence. The opinion of an outsider was enough to have my dogs confiscated and in their eyes and in the eyes of the justice system, the appearance alone is all that is needed. I even told the dog warden I had just cashed out my vacation time so I could get Ivy to the vet to be certain, but never the less we were doin somethin right cuz she had shown great improvement! Not enough. They say we left the condition "untreated". I explained to them, as i explained here, how it was bein treated. No matter, we hadnt yet provided what they call "reasonable treatment" or as best as I have been able to interpret, seen by a liscensed vet. No other way around it.

    A couple points of particular interest to me;
    1. The dog warden is one of only a few people who can come onto your property unannounced without a warrant or any other probable cause any time he sees fit to do so, simply because you have dogs.
    2. The dog warden seized our dogs on the spot without first goin to the court to gain approval from a judge where propable cause is supposed to be submitted. When asked how it was that he took our dogs without goin before the judge, he said he didnt need to and is able to take the dogs if he feels its an emergency, that the dogs safety is at risk.
    3. We have read through the various sections, codes and subsections of the laws as they pertain to the seizure of dogs by the dog warden. No such law is written or implied that gives express permission or allows for the seizure of animals without first gaining the approval of the court. The only law that allows for such is if the dogs arent wearing tags, which they werent, but we were specifically told they were taken due to the malnourished condition and neglect. ILLEGAL!!!
    4. The position of dog warden is an appointed position, not an elected one.

    I'm in a position of defending myself, and as I said, the burden of proof of innocence rests solely on me. Its easy to see that this place and our govt. is like some sort of upside down and backward Alice In Wonderland reality right now. I'm hurt, I'm worried about Ivy, (Max is fine I'm certain) and I'm angry and dont know how to deal with the way I feel. My hands are tied and my thoughts... are dark at best. There is nothing about the way I feel that is helpful or productive. In the past, when I was doin leatherwork all the time, I often made pieces for charity and auction, sold stuff at heavily discounted prices to those doin animal wlefare work, especially those that volunteered time. Thats one reason why this is especially hurtful right now. And be told I'm not capable of makin decisions for the benefit of my dogs? That I havent cared for them and have neglected them? There was a bowl of food in the shed with Ivy when they took her right next to the bucket of fresh water!!! Same with Max, only he had turned his bowl over and knocked his bucket over cuz he was like that. Man, my kids refilled water buckets constantly...

    Did you also know, if the dog wardens vet decides a condition is beyond repair they can put the dog down? Did you know the back surgery is between 3 and 5K $$$?

    I know plenty of folks who deal with illness and injury with their animals without goin to a vet, we have for years. I also know folks who wouldnt think twice about puttin a bullet in the dogs head as soon as it came up lame.

    Betrayed... I dont trust any of them nor do I have any faith in the system. I'm likely gonna loose my dogs for good because a "concerned citizen" saw something they didnt understand or know about and formed an opinion in a moment. That person never sat with my kids at night. That person never stood in my kitchen to spend the extra 10 minutes per meal for a single dog twice daily for weeks to help keep an ailing dog healthy. That person didnt sit at my table and discuss with my children the possibility of havin to put Ivy down. That person never hunted with me, my kids or Ivy... Up until this time, had anyone asked, I woulda shared the quail I have in in the freezer. Not now. I realized I dont know these people.

    Weird livin in a community with people you suddenly realize you dont recognize, or trust.
  16. Ripsnortr

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    Wow, Rossi, just wow.

    What the hell happened to innocent until proven guilty?
  17. ripjack13

    ripjack13 Resident Sawdust Maker Staff Member Administrator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Holy s****!!! Thats so wrong. Im sorry to hear this....my heart is with you on this.
  18. LAZY EYED SNIPER

    LAZY EYED SNIPER Overwatch Staff Member Global Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Same here brother.

    Please keep us posted and good luck...
  19. oli700

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    I'll write a letter on your behalf. We talked several times how much we love our dogs and how we both finally had one that was our own. About how we hate people who abuse animals....it’s all documented here.
    Don’t go ballistic but you should be angry, it’s natural. What you do to deal with it is try not to take it out on others, use it to focus your thoughts and let it motivate you to fight this battle……go shoot some ammo,hug your kids......cry, whatever it takes not to go crazy with hate.
  20. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator Sponsor

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    Thank you gentlemen.

    Oli I sincerely appreciate the offer. My lawyer says he doesnt expect it will go to trial, if so, I'd certainly be happy to have a letter as we'll be callin character witnesses as well. I want to call as a witness the person who called the police.

    He is entering a plea of not guilty in writing and believes the charges will be dropped... but at the cost of surrendering my dogs. Messed up, just messed up. I'd almost rather go to trial. Shouldnt even have to. Theyre supposed to be the ones responsible for the burden of proof of my guilt, yet I'll be the one havin to pay the lawyer, costs and fines.

    I am angry. My anger is becoming animosity, resentment, suspicion... I'm worried about my dogs. I keep lookin for them when I leave for work and get home. I look for them at feedin time. I remember they arent here, and the anger rises again. I regard everyone around here with careful distrust.

    We went shootin last weekend to take our minds off of it for awhile. I need to go again, but dont know if I can get out right now, life continues here at home.

    Allison is takin it all real hard too. Again, this causes anger at the one responsible for causing the pain.

    Any down time is almost too much to deal with. Cant stand sittin... dont know what to do with myself.

    I appreciate you all. Thanks for takin the time to read and respond. My mind was racin and cant sleep, it helped to lay it out, kinda felt like gettin some weight off my chest which was like anxiety building and churning.

    Thank you.

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