ripjack13 said:
I hope youre correct. But I feel anything is possible now.
Tom396 said:
I don't think anyone would foolish enough to even attempt to outright ban firearms. Much more likely to try incremental steps like "reasonable restrictions" on purchases. Kinda like the ol' boiling frog analogy. Take care. Tom Worthington.
The creeping incremental approach generationally has been happening now for generations.
Heres the thing, Obama has been an anti 2A guy for a very long time and admitted as much on record as early as his college days. He feels no one should own a firearm. While he may not himself use our federal system to ban firearm ownership, hes def in favor of signin on with the UN and the ATT (Arms Trade Treaty) which may pave the way for the UN's intentions of disarming everyone and possible allow for enforcement by UN forces.
This is no conspiracy theory of mine. One only has to look at stated goals and intentions. Certain pieces of the agenda are public and published. I have been asking myself "To what end?" over these things for some time now, but pieces are beginning to fit together. Individually it may not add up and to ask if Obama will ban all firearm ownership, well, that question on its own would seem to be a resounding NO!!! It can never happen. But when you look at all the parts, a pattern emerges and it can be put together.
#1. Obama said in a SOTUA he would like to consolidate all power of the federal govt to the executive branch. (that would be him)
#2. NDAA "indefinite detention of terror suspect" legislation comes out for fiscal year 2012.
#3. DHS report uncovers new definitions of terror suspects or individuals capable of or possessing the potential for committing acts of terror. (I can get the exact wording from the report if you like but its all posted here on MO already) New definitions would clearly define many of us here as terrorists.
#4. Push to sign the several UN treaties, one particularly being the one dealing with small arms, the ATT, is expected to be signed by Hillary Clinton by the 27th of this month. (details of this are highlighted on here as well)
#5. After this past weekend and the heinous murders and maiming of innocents in Colorado, there is a hard push for more gun legislation, control and even bans.
Lanny Davis was speaking today and stated he desires for certain purchases to be tracked. Purchases like bulk ammo and certain firearms such as semi-autos and assault rifles. He said ther is no practical, sporting or recreational use for such firearms anyway and those should simply be banned anyhow. These are his words but not a quote, I'm paraphrasing.
No practical, sporting, or recreactional use for semi-auto firearms. Think about that, cuz thats how many people feel. Apparently 3 Gun isnt a sport, neither is IDPA, ISPC, or anything resembling these where a semi-auto firearm is commonly used. These are being catagorized as "assault weapons".
Lets move on to the next point, ammo. I have even heard some conservatives agree, or perhaps aquiesse is the better term, to tracking not only the sale of the above mentioned but also ammo.
What is the end goal of all this? Well, what Lanny Davis said, would be for the DHS to have a record of all sales and be able to track them. I defer to the above mentioned point about the DHS new definitions of terrorism and terrorist. He said this could be used by the DHS to stop people like Holmes in Colorado before they could carry out such an act of terror.
Really? How? Does America have a "pre-crime" division of some agency like the DHS? If I'm following, the DHS would use new definitions to identify and track individuals who possess the potential to carry out terrorist activities, who could then be detained indefinitely and even sent to a prison abroad.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!! What the hell is goin on with people in this country? When did regular, normal, law abiding, freedom loving, Americans become the bad guy?
Does everyone here know this kind of stuff is what the communists and nazis would do? You re-define meanings of words, track and detain anyone who opposes the radical agenda, disarm civilians, double talk, lie, distort facts and evidence, if it happened you say it didnt...
I could go on and it really isnt even conspiracy theory anymore when the UN posts this stuff on their website.