Ok, my avatar is a logo from the SoCal music group Social Distortion. What can I say, I like skeleton logos and the bulls eye/bullet holes goes with guns. My screen name was going to be minimike but I had trouble getting registered. I tried registering from my work computer but I had to use a different name so it's carbinemike. Both mini and carbine are for my Ruger Mini-14 in 5.56. I like carbines. I put the 51411 590A1 beside the Mini-14 and they were about the same length...It's like a carbine shotgun!